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@KlariskraysNHL wrote:
@PernellKarl027For the most part you don't want to create different gameplay feelings as you want people to feel they can jump around easily between modes.
Ouch ! This is where we are not seeing eye to eye Follisimo… For me Hockey is Hockey, no matter the modes. For me it’s supposed to look and play like the real thing. When I tell you that I can’t play 5 minutes on the EA "Simulation" sliders because it’s really not for me…
So for me, playing ONLINE with the aforementioned and dedicated settings is a big NO NO. If this the direction EA is going in the future with everyone online with the same settings, they will lose a customer that bought the game since NHL91 and I know for sure that I’m not alone.
When you create an online franchise you can still edit sliders and all that jazz if it's your league you are running and have people in.
- Froommey2 years agoSeasoned Ace
Another thing why I don't want to play online is the camera angle. I like to play in broadcast mode, sorry but the classic mode for me looks a bit like ping pong hockey.
- 2 years ago
@Froommey wrote:Another thing why I don't want to play online is the camera angle. I like to play in broadcast mode, sorry but the classic mode for me looks a bit like ping pong hockey.
Have you ever tried Action Camera on Player Lock (auto zoom) ? Best immersive REAL hockey experience in my opinion 😀
I strongly suggest this way of playing in my SETUP, and I’ve turned around a bunch of guys that swore by other camera angles 😉
- KlariskraysNHL2 years agoHero+
@Froommey I've having trouble understanding your excuse when it's in the options menu. I mean it's ok to just say you don't want to use the inferior camera angle when it comes to playing online.
I of course prefer the zone camera so I can see the whole ice and read my opponents.
- Froommey2 years agoSeasoned Ace@PernellKarl027 Yes tried, looks also great. Classic cam in offline mode used until two years ago and found out that in other camera angles the game with own sliders looks so much better and more like a hockey game. I know your sliders too. Great work buddy ! By the way, what you are doing for offline mode is amazing. We offline gamers need more guys like you :-)
- Froommey2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@KlariskraysNHLIt makes only sense if both playing online the same camera angle. Other camera angles are by far more difficult to play online as the classic cam, so it would'nt be fair. Same meaning as PK too, also no sense too to play with EA sliders online. Want to play a hockey game which looks as close as possible, therefore EA sliders in my opinion aren't good enough.
- 2 years ago
@Froommey wrote:
@PernellKarl027Yes tried, looks also great. Classic cam in offline mode used until two years ago and found out that in other camera angles the game with own sliders looks so much better and more like a hockey game. I know your sliders too. Great work buddy ! By the way, what you are doing for offline mode is amazing. We offline gamers need more guys like you :-)
That’s awesome my friend ! Thanks for the nice words 👍😀 Me and a couple of guys from OS, (GetThePuckOut, phillyfan23 and zevon__99) are working as we speak on something even better… We all think that this will change the game for a long, long time…You can stay tuned or if you would like to join the group, let me know by PM… I see that you and I share the same views on the game 😉
- Froommey2 years agoSeasoned Ace@PernellKarl027 I know you and the other guys from OP Sports :-) I guess you know me too, but under another nickname ;-) I am there since many years, roster, face scan thread ;-)
- 2 years ago
@Froommey wrote:
@PernellKarl027I know you and the other guys from OP Sports :-) I guess you know me too, but under another nickname ;-) I am there since many years, roster, face scan thread ;-)LOL ! I see, I see… I think I know who you are 🤔 You are very critical of EA on Player likeness and rosters 😉
If you are, who I think you are, this community definitely needs more people like you also !!! But when I say this community, take it with a grain of salt, because apparently we are not "sexy" to EA…
Peace ✌️
- Froommey2 years agoSeasoned Ace@PernellKarl027 Not only this, but real faces, rosters, player headshot pics is a part of it. Much more things about this seven years in this forum, especialy about franchise mode. All of my suggestions they ignored during this time. So mostly tired and without energy to post so often as I did in past. I do not believe in any master plan they have for offline modes the next three years. Hey devs, please give me a new roster for 23 and I will stay with !!!
- 2 years ago
I know how you feel regarding the offline stuff unfortunately 😒
But, that being said, updated rosters are available on all consoles for 23. Not from EA, but lots of guys are doing them.
We also have a Taylor made roster for PS5 and next Gen XBox with all the recent trades and stuff… On mine on the X, you also have different skating styles for some players, cause we are planning on playing 23 for a long, long time by the looks of all of this 😀
- Froommey2 years agoSeasoned Ace@PernellKarl027 yes, sure I do myself for 23. You can see it in OP sports. My roster is nearly up do date, excluding the draft picks from 23 of course. The thing is this that I do not want to play with this mass of black silhouettes. If we would have the possibility to upload headshot pics for our cap's yes that would bring it to another level for me. Second are the missing face scans compared to 24.
- darkryd3r2 years agoSeasoned Veteran
First thanks for the great summary of this messy stuff that EA want to sell.
I do absolutely agree with you. It is a good idea to think about to stay with 23.
What I have seen so far from the playtests, EA will fully go arcady with these disco boards, horrible player indicator, x-factor stuff, pressure meter, goal celebrations. Last year they took out full presentation and now even worse, they start implement bad stuff for the offline community. Ok, that's their decision and strategy. I will take my decision and wait and see how it develops. Will EA at least provide an option to turn off this mess on the ice?Another concern of myself is that they will not add many new face scans. If they will just add about 10 new real faces I will stay with 23. Why should I buy a game that is worse than the previous one? And I am sure there will be fine rosters out there for 23 including all recent trades. The game is not released yet and I just see people ranting even already now before release. And I do not see threads here in the forum of people who are happy with 24 (except on Youtube of the influencers and game changers or whatever they are called. So this should actually be a clear message to the responsibles of EA that something is going totally wrong here with this game.
- Froommey2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@darkryd3rAbsolutely agree with your point of view. Wise to wait some weeks after the release and to prove some feedback. Myself bought NHL 22 and 23 in used market after around a month from the release. Full presentation back of course a big must. Without the game is looking emotionless and stiff. If they don't add something special in franchise mode too, I will do the same way this year as the last two years. No care for offline modes means, no worth to give money from my pocket.
- KlariskraysNHL2 years agoHero+@darkryd3r People who are OK are less likely to respond is a reason why. If I get some food from a place and it's great I'm less likely to leave feedback, but if my experience is bad then of course I'm gonna throw a fit. If it's justified they usually do something special for you.
Also these forums don't even represent a measly 1% of the playerbase. This is just a place to come complain and nothing more. Can't wait for when the discord launches and they have to deal with you all. Lots of bans in the future. - 2 years ago
- 2 years ago
@KlariskraysNHL wrote:
@darkryd3rPeople who are OK are less likely to respond is a reason why. If I get some food from a place and it's great I'm less likely to leave feedback, but if my experience is bad then of course I'm gonna throw a fit. If it's justified they usually do something special for you.
Also these forums don't even represent a measly 1% of the playerbase. This is just a place to come complain and nothing more. Can't wait for when the discord launches and they have to deal with you all. Lots of bans in the future.So 1% of the player base is complaining and 99% are satisfied ? We are gonna get banned if we voice our opinions ? Follisimo, it’s really OK if YOU like the direction this game is taking. We don’t necessarily have to be in the same boat.
I know I voice my opinion when I see something I don’t like, but I also send KUDOS to EA when they do a good job. Just take my 1st post in this thread as an example….
- darkryd3r2 years agoSeasoned Veteran
@KlariskraysNHL you are totally right, most people just post negative feedback and the happy ones are quiet and enjoy the game. But 1% vs. 99%....we are the 300 spartans at the thermopyles😉
So no offense towards the forum moderators who have to deal with all this here. And also no offense towards the development crew. My "rant" is addressed to the strategic decision makers who seem to ruin the immersion of this game more and more. And there is no other Ice Hockey game on the market, no competition at all, we have no choice when it comes to play our favorite sport as a video game. But as said, I wait and see for the moment....and still not loosing hope😎
- 2 years ago@darkryd3r
And I have an complaint to add.
This isnt 'just' a place for complaints, I think this place is more then that.
But we have a game we all care for. And we all want/wish to be heard.
GMC *cough cough*... - KlariskraysNHL2 years agoHero+
@PernellKarl027You are 1 of the very few but let's be honest when the game launches there won't be any praise. It will be nothing but complaints. You won't see any 'Wow you made the hitting so awesome in the game" or "Wow I feel like I'm finally being rewarded for dominating games".
And no the other 99% aren't all satisfied either. Hell I'm not even what I would consider a satisfied customer. Thing is I air my problems and don't bother repeating the same topic each month because I didn't get my way. Hell a vast majority of the people still think Rammer is in charge of the series. - Bruins0632 years agoRising Hotshot@KlariskraysNHL If I get banned for voicing my opinion on my favorite sports game on things I think need to be in the game so that it feels like I’m at the arena and watching it on tv then so be it. Because these games are lacking on the stuff you see when you are watching it live or even inside the actual arena and it is definitely not a traditional broadcast… we are on the 24th game and the coaches don’t even look correct nor do all the players for crying out loud.
- KlariskraysNHL2 years agoHero+@Bruins063 I can't see someone getting banned voicing their opinion as long as it isn't attacking EA devs. They don't have the coaches in the game and never have. Who knows what is needed for that. I'm sure it's another association that would require budget money. And as for player faces it would seem like they can't add a face without scanning them or something. I mean only EA knows how their deals with the NHL and NHLPA work. Maybe they can't take photos of players off the internet and use them. It's something we will never get the answer to.
In a perfect world there would be some AI program modeling images of faces to put into the game. - Bruins0632 years agoRising Hotshot
@KlariskraysNHL I am very passionate for these games and I hope down the road little things that are authentic get added in here and there but I am very excited for the future of these games I will say.
- NeonSkyline212 years agoSeasoned Ace@KlariskraysNHL My dude.. you've been here as long as me (if not longer... I was Santini3 back in the day) and you know DARN well that the majority of people who post here are teenagers with too much time on their hands. I RARELY even come to this forum anymore even though I have complaints about certain aspects of the game.
I'll say this though: I'm not really sure what you're trying to accomplish by complaining about the complainers. Let them voice their opinions. Just because we've accepte the... *ahem*... "state" of the franchise long ago doesn't mean these kids should. - Froommey2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@KlariskraysNHLAbout player likenesses I have some informations for you from EA creative director William Ho......
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"We can do it manually; there's nothing that a good video artist can't create from photo reference, from video reference. But we are looking at ways we can be more mobile so we can meet halfway with the athletes, or if they are passing through Vancouver we can get them into our head scanning room.
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https://www.gameinformer.com/2018/07/26/ea-answers-the-hard-questions-on-nhl-19-player-likenesses-commentary-changes-eashl
https://www.sportsgamersonline.com/games/hockey/nhl-22-player-likeness-updates/
@NeonSkyline21 @By the way, I am 59 years old, guess the most here in this forum are no teenies - darkryd3r2 years agoSeasoned Veteran
@Froommeythanks for sharing. At least it shows that EA is aware and willed to find solutions in terms of scanning more players. However, EA should not hold back the scans for usually another year. They should release them also during the year more frequently by patches and/or roster updates.
P.S. 54 year, no teenager here😉...anyhow, it's not a matter of age, both teens and oldies can bring in good inputs.