Goalie feedback

I understand that bad bounces happen, I understand that sometimes clean shots from non danger areas go in. My issue is when it's happening a ton. Why is my goalie dropping to the butterfly on a wrist from the point that's going high corner.? Things like that 

https://www.reddit.com/r/EASHL/s/tuv235yecY

In case EA needed more proof.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EASHL/s/7cEczk3y2A

That isn't our clip but just another example

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/hwTQM3NAtg

Just had this happen in an EASHL game against another goalie.

Bruh.

@SilentAssassn25 

Thanks for gathering all those clips. I agree that goalies can be frustrating. Especially when they take too long to get back up. I know the team is aware of this feedback.

@EA_Aljo is there a patch imminent to fix this nonsense?

For the record I appreciate the constant tweaks the team is making. They seem more engaged than in years past. But if they could stop breaking a section of the game while fixing another section.... that'd be great

https://youtu.be/CrjPwyIHERI?si=wVhjq7Vpf4hyWkHB

Our goalie showboating a bit for the fans. 3 desperation saves triggered from full stamina off a shot that never even got through originally. The lack of composure from goalies is all over the map right now, this sort of behavior near full stamina shouldn't be as common as it is right now.

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@EA_Aljo wrote:

@SilentAssassn25 

Thanks for gathering all those clips. I agree that goalies can be frustrating. Especially when they take too long to get back up. I know the team is aware of this feedback.

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Ok so they’re aware but is anything being done? Should be a pretty easy fix for any half competent devs. 

My opponents goalie is lights out but my goalie gives up this 

https://youtu.be/q4IN9XaqIxs?si=uOXOuGS5gEHK3Hcw

Hey look more clips.

Desperation save attempt on a slow rolling puck near the crease. Then sits on his butt and doesn't react.

https://youtu.be/A1oBTZ6h5Bw?si=CtNYbdbN-IAt8Y10

Now this one worked out in our benefit but what is the goalie doing. Flopping around and not getting up.

https://youtu.be/MEnvsC59edM?si=VtYxR1kwOg4w5qNO

Same here. The cpu goalie is a brick wall, but goals like that happen all the time against me. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/EASHL/s/40Rc3UA70h

Another one courtesy of reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/EA_NHL/s/ruFZXNe6d3

Puck phases through goalies pads.

Cmon @EA_Aljo 

https://www.reddit.com/r/EA_NHL/s/nEdFmMSJwq

This is a new one. Goalie phases through the net to make a cover behind the net

Offline mode. Not the best example but 3 goals on 7 shots through 2 periods. So stupid anymore. Plus I have my goalie setting all the way up. 

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/sCVX5wBqPP

Skater throws a simple wrister on net from the far boards. Simplest, easiest save in the world. My goalie hits the puck with his glove, bounces the puck off his blocker, puck archs over my goalie, bounces off my back and into the net.

I'm sick and tired of this garbage game. I won't be returning for NHL 25. Hire some developers who are worth their paycheck.

These were all from a six game span earlier in the week. 

First the most "forgivable" goal.  It could be argued the goalie was screened until the top of the circle, but it's a nothing shot from far out and the goalie is swatting at flies.

An unscreened wrist shot from just inside the blue line and the shooter is drifting away from the net so he's shooting against his own momentum.  It wasn't the game winner, but we did lose this game by one.

And finally  a game-winning OT goal.  I'm not even trying to score here, just getting rid of the puck to make sure I don't turn it over and give the other team a break.  Best case scenario is the AI by the net could play a rebound if one happens.  Nope.  Goalie just wiffs.  It's these kinds of goals that just ruin games.  We won, but there's little satisfaction when the win comes because the other team lost the "bad game mechanics" coin flip.

These are great. Keep posting them guys. I always tend to record the dumb things that happen in this game, and goalies giving up some of the worst shots for no reason are the bulk of them. When I start to get them ready to post I remember that things like this usually fall on deaf ears.

That OT winner that was posted, I scored one just like that last night in the last seasons of a period from near the blue line unscreened.

Goalies are worse than they've ever been.  The amount of stupid bounces, goalies knocking pucks in, etc.  This game is astoundingly bad in every way.

@EA_Aljo 

https://youtu.be/0FYrBZXJhSc?si=6tvUWMtqzGuVwHt4

Count the desperation saves. Don't worry, I'll do it for you in the video. 

I had a thought the other night that explains so much of what's wrong with goalies in NHL 24.  I'm also completely certain this isn't actually the case.  So just for fun here it is:  The devs have modelled the goalie behaviour based on late 80s/early 90s goaltending.  The butterfly exists but hasn't quite become the dominate style and there are still lots of goalies playing an in-between style where they're still trying to make a lot of unnecessary, flashy, reactionary saves where just being in the right position would suffice.  Think Richter or Vernon from this time period.

Here the shooter is too close to the goalie and has positioned the puck in such a way that his only play is to shovel a shot right at the goalie.  And that's exactly what he does.  Easy save right?  No, the goalie feels the need to do the splits and attempt a lunging blocker save opening up lots of holes for the puck to go through.  And it does.

Again, the shooter is in close with no real holes to shoot at.  The goalie should be relying on positioning to make the save and forcing the shooter to make a more difficult shot to score.  And again the goalie can't just let the shot hit him, he needs to make an unnecessary kick-save attempt opening up holes for the puck.

Here again the goalie has most of the net covered and I should be forced to make a really good backhand shot to get the puck past him near the post.  My shot is terrible and goes right at the goalie, but because an unnecessary animation is triggered I get rewarded with a goal.

And finally the Mike Richter special.  There is absolutely no reason this animation should kick in here.  I'm not saying it's a good idea to give up this shot, but there's no pass to worry about and the goalie is positioned in a way that there's little to shoot at.  Just standing there would have been a better option.  Edit: there's two goals in this clip.  Only the first one is of interest here.

@PlayoffError 

Thanks for gathering all those clips. I've forwarded this on to the team.

Any response to the clips I'm posting here? Devs gonna do anything about it?