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That EA thinks in order to people to be entertained playing a hockey game it has to be a complete exaggeration of the sport?

The game is full of hip checks and Michigan goals, is all offense and no defense, and has almost no puck battles, dump ins/outs, or loose pucks.

If one of the \"kids\" that are apparently so enthralled with fancy dekes and crazy hip checks (that happen a couple times a year in real hockey)that are EA's target market for this game go to a real NHL game, they will be really disappointed to see a lot of physical puck battles, board play, loose pucks, chips out of/into the zone, etc.

With hockey back, just watch the games.  See how often players lose possession, how hard it is to break out of the zone and get through the neutral zone cleanly, how little each player possesses the puck before moving it, how many times two players race for a puck just to essentially get a \"puck chop\" at it to get it out of their zone or into the other team's zone.  Then play or watch NHL 24 and see how little of that there is in this game.

I understand no one wants to play a game that is a complete simulation of the sport, that would be boring. 

But my god, there should be way more dump ins than Michigan attempts in typical game of video game hockey, regardless of how \"sim\" you want it to be, and that is not the case with NHL 24.  Unbelievable.

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That EA thinks in order to people to be entertained playing a hockey game it has to be a complete exaggeration of the sport?

The game is full of hip checks and Michigan goals, is all offense and no defense, and has almost no puck battles, dump ins/outs, or loose pucks.

If one of the \"kids\" that are apparently so enthralled with fancy dekes and crazy hip checks (that happen a couple times a year in real hockey)that are EA's target market for this game go to a real NHL game, they will be really disappointed to see a lot of physical puck battles, board play, loose pucks, chips out of/into the zone, etc.

With hockey back, just watch the games.  See how often players lose possession, how hard it is to break out of the zone and get through the neutral zone cleanly, how little each player possesses the puck before moving it, how many times two players race for a puck just to essentially get a \"puck chop\" at it to get it out of their zone or into the other team's zone.  Then play or watch NHL 24 and see how little of that there is in this game.

I understand no one wants to play a game that is a complete simulation of the sport, that would be boring. 

But my god, there should be way more dump ins than Michigan attempts in typical game of video game hockey, regardless of how \"sim\" you want it to be, and that is not the case with NHL 24.  Unbelievable.

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@couture2fat2fly wrote:

There's absolutely nothing done to counter online cheese. The same major cheese plays have been there for at least 2 years and only got worse. Skating in circles in the corner without passing, skating right at people along the boards, sitting in the slot defensively and letting the CPU defend, cross-crease passes being incredibly easy this year... I mean where do you see any attempt at countering cheese plays?

You're right about all of those plays, but one of the big gameplay changes was to the L2/skating backwards. That greasy goal line still goes in, but it's not as bad.

So they got like 1.5/5-6

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@couture2fat2fly wrote:

There's absolutely nothing done to counter online cheese. The same major cheese plays have been there for at least 2 years and only got worse. Skating in circles in the corner without passing, skating right at people along the boards, sitting in the slot defensively and letting the CPU defend, cross-crease passes being incredibly easy this year... I mean where do you see any attempt at countering cheese plays?

You're right about all of those plays, but one of the big gameplay changes was to the L2/skating backwards. That greasy goal line still goes in, but it's not as bad.

So they got like 1.5/5-6

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I couldn’t agree more about all the posts in this thread.

Yes it is insulting to the people that love this beautiful game. 

Ive said it before and I will say it again, make two versions of NHL25…. One called NHLHITZ or NHL STREET where you can put all the stuff that are more suitable for a Fortnite genre type of game and make an authentic version for people who truly loves the game of hockey.


Everything in this game right now, is done to counter online cheese and ballerinas and that reflects big time on the people that wants a true representation of the sport. I mean, this is supposed to be a hockey game, no ?

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I couldn’t agree more about all the posts in this thread.

Yes it is insulting to the people that love this beautiful game. 

Ive said it before and I will say it again, make two versions of NHL25…. One called NHLHITZ or NHL STREET where you can put all the stuff that are more suitable for a Fortnite genre type of game and make an authentic version for people who truly loves the game of hockey.


Everything in this game right now, is done to counter online cheese and ballerinas and that reflects big time on the people that wants a true representation of the sport. I mean, this is supposed to be a hockey game, no ?

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@PernellKarl027 wrote:

I couldn’t agree more about all the posts in this thread.

...


Everything in this game right now, is done to counter online cheese and ballerinas and that reflects big time on the people that wants a true representation of the sport. I mean, this is supposed to be a hockey game, no ?

There's absolutely nothing done to counter online cheese. The same major cheese plays have been there for at least 2 years and only got worse. Skating in circles in the corner without passing, skating right at people along the boards, sitting in the slot defensively and letting the CPU defend, cross-crease passes being incredibly easy this year... I mean where do you see any attempt at countering cheese plays?

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@PernellKarl027 wrote:

I couldn’t agree more about all the posts in this thread.

...


Everything in this game right now, is done to counter online cheese and ballerinas and that reflects big time on the people that wants a true representation of the sport. I mean, this is supposed to be a hockey game, no ?

There's absolutely nothing done to counter online cheese. The same major cheese plays have been there for at least 2 years and only got worse. Skating in circles in the corner without passing, skating right at people along the boards, sitting in the slot defensively and letting the CPU defend, cross-crease passes being incredibly easy this year... I mean where do you see any attempt at countering cheese plays?

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