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We also tend to look for the bad things more than looking for the good that go our way also. There is always things we can do to better ourselves in positions but sadly at times we don't see it til it is too late.
@KlariskraysNHL wrote:
@Limp_KidzKitI've always said offense must reign supreme over defense. I've said it for years upon years because that is what the average consumer wants. They want to feel like the superstar that comes in clutch with goals. Defense is always gonna be harder but when you can play a solid defensive game you can make life hell for even some of the best offenses.
We also tend to look for the bad things more than looking for the good that go our way also. There is always things we can do to better ourselves in positions but sadly at times we don't see it til it is too late.
My idea of "balancing" would actually see more "home base" shots beating goalies. It would see more 1st shot goals from elite shooters. imo...theres plenty of ways to make getting a high danger shot off harder while simultaneously rewarding it more.
this idea would revolve around defensive intercceptions becoming lesser with the DSS and shoves and low speed hitting getting major buffs or retunred to their previous state (DSS).
Offense should be overpowered if the defense is going to be passive, lose gaps, not back check, etc...but on the contrary, if the defense is applying pressure and playing sound position, the offesne is going to have to either simplify their game or find more creative cuts, passes, chips, etc to find space.
thats real hockey and real hockey is fun. it does not require us to have a bunch of loose pucks and bobbled passes in theory, it just requires puck carrier sakting and general speed/agility/acceleration to be tuned to more believable settings. this should naturally lead to more time and space if the defense isn't playing proper gaps and marking their assignments correctly which would in turn make offense more fun and rewardign as dekes would be more effective than they currently are.
win-win in my books...current tuners are boring for all involved that leave many wanting more
- Jagavekov2 years agoSeasoned Veteran
@Limp_KidzKit wrote:
@KlariskraysNHL wrote:
@Limp_KidzKitI've always said offense must reign supreme over defense. I've said it for years upon years because that is what the average consumer wants. They want to feel like the superstar that comes in clutch with goals. Defense is always gonna be harder but when you can play a solid defensive game you can make life hell for even some of the best offenses.
We also tend to look for the bad things more than looking for the good that go our way also. There is always things we can do to better ourselves in positions but sadly at times we don't see it til it is too late.My idea of "balancing" would actually see more "home base" shots beating goalies. It would see more 1st shot goals from elite shooters. imo...theres plenty of ways to make getting a high danger shot off harder while simultaneously rewarding it more.
I might make a separate post about this, but this has been something I have been thinking about for a while. With all these prominent shooters now who regularly beat goalies on shots like this - Matthews, Bedard, etc., maybe it is time for a "shot stick" type mechanic to make shooting more fun and skill based. I watch the condensed games in the mornings and it seems like more and more guys are beating goalies with clean shots from high danger areas. If more of these went in in NHL 24, we would need less Harlem Globetrotters on ice goals.
I'll think about the specifics but some "joystick jockeying" involving timing or stick movement that brings more user skill into the equation of beating goalies with shots rather than just pressing up on the right stick and top corner on the left stick and letting the attributes decide what happens, which is boring and stale. I haven't played a ton of NBA 2K but it feels good to get a "green release" and hit a shot, it's time for something like this in NHL.
- Rigu72 years agoSeasoned Hotshot@Jagavekov A contextual wrist shot meter would be a great idea if implemented well. You're right, goalies get beaten clean a lot by snipes in real life.
Loads of traffic in front? The green release zone is pretty small; gliding in the clear and it should be easier to release the skill stick in the green zone, but timing is still key.
The goalies aren't fixable by sliders since 23, they either miraculously save NHL style shots from the slot or let in the same poor goals continuously from the same spots on the ice. - TheUnusedCrayon2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Jagavekov wrote:
@Limp_KidzKit wrote:
@KlariskraysNHL wrote:
@Limp_KidzKitI've always said offense must reign supreme over defense. I've said it for years upon years because that is what the average consumer wants. They want to feel like the superstar that comes in clutch with goals. Defense is always gonna be harder but when you can play a solid defensive game you can make life hell for even some of the best offenses.
We also tend to look for the bad things more than looking for the good that go our way also. There is always things we can do to better ourselves in positions but sadly at times we don't see it til it is too late.My idea of "balancing" would actually see more "home base" shots beating goalies. It would see more 1st shot goals from elite shooters. imo...theres plenty of ways to make getting a high danger shot off harder while simultaneously rewarding it more.
I might make a separate post about this, but this has been something I have been thinking about for a while. With all these prominent shooters now who regularly beat goalies on shots like this - Matthews, Bedard, etc., maybe it is time for a "shot stick" type mechanic to make shooting more fun and skill based. I watch the condensed games in the mornings and it seems like more and more guys are beating goalies with clean shots from high danger areas. If more of these went in in NHL 24, we would need less Harlem Globetrotters on ice goals.
I'll think about the specifics but some "joystick jockeying" involving timing or stick movement that brings more user skill into the equation of beating goalies with shots rather than just pressing up on the right stick and top corner on the left stick and letting the attributes decide what happens, which is boring and stale. I haven't played a ton of NBA 2K but it feels good to get a "green release" and hit a shot, it's time for something like this in NHL.
One thing I want to note is if you watch the esports and paid tourneys for this game they never score directly off a shot from a good area. Has to be a one-timer or a deke on net.
They literally refuse to shoot the puck 1 on 1 from high slot because they know it isn't going in, despite goalies playing on their goal lines the whole game.
- KidShowtime18672 years agoHero
@Jagavekov wrote:
@Limp_KidzKit wrote:
@KlariskraysNHL wrote:
@Limp_KidzKitI've always said offense must reign supreme over defense. I've said it for years upon years because that is what the average consumer wants. They want to feel like the superstar that comes in clutch with goals. Defense is always gonna be harder but when you can play a solid defensive game you can make life hell for even some of the best offenses.
We also tend to look for the bad things more than looking for the good that go our way also. There is always things we can do to better ourselves in positions but sadly at times we don't see it til it is too late.My idea of "balancing" would actually see more "home base" shots beating goalies. It would see more 1st shot goals from elite shooters. imo...theres plenty of ways to make getting a high danger shot off harder while simultaneously rewarding it more.
I might make a separate post about this, but this has been something I have been thinking about for a while. With all these prominent shooters now who regularly beat goalies on shots like this - Matthews, Bedard, etc., maybe it is time for a "shot stick" type mechanic to make shooting more fun and skill based. I watch the condensed games in the mornings and it seems like more and more guys are beating goalies with clean shots from high danger areas. If more of these went in in NHL 24, we would need less Harlem Globetrotters on ice goals.
I'll think about the specifics but some "joystick jockeying" involving timing or stick movement that brings more user skill into the equation of beating goalies with shots rather than just pressing up on the right stick and top corner on the left stick and letting the attributes decide what happens, which is boring and stale. I haven't played a ton of NBA 2K but it feels good to get a "green release" and hit a shot, it's time for something like this in NHL.
Yup, something akin to the swing mechanic in today's golf games. Force the shooter to make clean movements on the shot stick for accurate shots.