@PernellKarl027You don't need more than 2 seconds to realize what's happening.
Clip 1: D anticipates the pass and it goes right by him for no other reason. Trying to fight for the puck as a D in the D-zone is insane. Even anticipating passes rarely yields results. Not even going to comment on one player challenging goalie and three other players only to take a crappy shot and the rebound seems to go exactly to... surprise.
https://runawaylegatus.com/majjama/roleplay/Furc/intercept2.mp4 - Here's a clip of me (Right D @ 10 secs in) trying to intercept a pass right at the beginning. I'm literally positioned to intercept, if anything, I should've disrupted the play, but it ends up as a perfect reception anyway. Then at 35 secs the opponent passes through my forward and I double back to intercept or break up the pass (again). If you freeze frame at 35 you can see the puck goes through my stick for another perfect reception. It's not hyperbole to say that this happens the vast majority of the time.
Clip 2, 3: Do you even have to ask what's the issue here with players literally pressed up against each other, the clipping through the stick, and the offensive player auto-regains the puck as the D keeps getting taken out of the play.
Clip 4: Just like in one of the examples that I posted myself, the majority of pokes go opposite of where you're poking. Not back the other way, not to the side, not bobbling, but directly behind you. When that happens, the poke slows you down. Then you can't pivot fast enough because that got nerfed games ago. Now all we have is players skating as fast as they can into the D and being rewarded for it. In NHL 22 (23 to a lesser extent), I could time my pokes perfectly to go back the other way when they hit. Case in point, the physics were better in past games, but what's new.
So yeah, PK, if you need longer clips to see what the issue is here, how're you going to help me or any other person that's concerned with the defensive side of the game?
@Jammalammalam wrote:@PernellKarl027You don't need more than 2 seconds to realize what's happening.
So yeah, PK, if you need longer clips to see what the issue is here, how're you going to help me or any other person that's concerned with the defensive side of the game?
The only clip that I commented on was the clip that was along the board, and said it was a bad play on the attacking front and on the D side. I’m not here to defend the game mechanics offense vs defense. I believe that the speed and animations and the slider setup ONLINE is ridiculous to start with. So that plays a big part as to where hockey plays like these don’t and never will feel right.
It all brings me back to threads and posts I made about making the game play like REAL HOCKEY first and foremost and all the rest will fall into place. Online hockey will be in a HAPPY place and it would take REAL hockey plays for your team to win, instead of only looking for Metas, glitches and whatnot…
And that would also bring me online looking to play with you guys 😉
@PernellKarl027 wrote: Online hockey will be in a HAPPY place and it would take REAL hockey plays for your team to win, instead of only looking for Metas, glitches and whatnot…
Outside of HUT and a few animation bugs, online hockey is in a good place. I use real defensive / offensive tactics all the time and find successes here and there. I also fail a lot. I get in a mood and rush players, I go for big hits when I shouldn't, I get caught mashing poke check while chasing players.. and they use real hockey plays like passing, dumping, using their agility versus my player bursting with speed to burn me.
Do I see top-ranked players trying the same move (get to the slot and shoot top corner)? Yup.
Do I adjust my defensive to collapse and protect the net? Yup.
Does it work when I'm not chasing the puck carrier and frantically swapping control of players and pulling them out of position? Mostly, yup.
Do I blame EA and claim they don't test their game, don't know hockey, don't put any effort, etc when I get an outcome I don't necessarily agree with? No. That's for the players who demand they be dominant within mere weeks of the release and lay the failure and lack of said dominance at the feet of a company just trying to make a fun hockey game for a spectrum of consumers that is vast and always changing. ( i get that offline guys have a whole slew of other complaints, but I'm not an offline guy and these comments are directed at online players)
You watch any streamer.. like go right now to twitch.tv and search NHL 24. Watch a streamer for 10-15 minutes. I guarantee you that when they get scored on at any point, they will say something to the effect of "COME ON EA MAKE A REAL HOCKEY GAME" or "What a trash game that's ridiculous, EA test your game"... etc etc.
Sure, there may be times when something odd happens that can be attributed to a development glitch but more often than not, it's a defensive failure and an unwillingness to admit they got caught, lapsed, and gave up a good chance.
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@PernellKarl027 wrote: Online hockey will be in a HAPPY place and it would take REAL hockey plays for your team to win, instead of only looking for Metas, glitches and whatnot…Outside of HUT and a few animation bugs, online hockey is in a good place.
I wholeheartedly disagree with you here… Just the pace, speed, animations of the game is all out of whack. Not talking about all the other nonsense… That’s in a good place for you ?
@PernellKarl027 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@PernellKarl027 wrote: Online hockey will be in a HAPPY place and it would take REAL hockey plays for your team to win, instead of only looking for Metas, glitches and whatnot…Outside of HUT and a few animation bugs, online hockey is in a good place.
I wholeheartedly disagree with you here… Just the pace, speed, animations of the game is all out of whack. Not talking about all the other nonsense… That’s in a good place for you ?
We all know hip checks are OP. This isn't news to anyone. I've stated before they need fixing.
@PernellKarl027I like 2B's videos. I remember playing against his club. Obviously the issues in the game go well beyond hip checks and if the game was anywhere near being in a good place (in 6's) then these drastic changes to some of the core mechanics in the game wouldn't need addressing. We'll see if EA addresses it this coming month, but I'm not holding my breath.
