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Jagavekov's avatar
Jagavekov
2 years ago

Isn't it kind of insulting to the NHL and the sport of hockey

That EA thinks in order to people to be entertained playing a hockey game it has to be a complete exaggeration of the sport? The game is full of hip checks and Michigan goals, is all offense and no ...
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TTZ_Dipsy
Hero+
2 years ago
@KidShowtime1867 Crazy thought, just spitballin here - how about... AI just worries about it's own positioning and role and lets it all be on the humans for any "mistakes" they make?

With AI on the ice I am forced to play a jack of all trades role, especially in 3v3 where they keep using 6v6 logic - there is literally no way of being competitive playing proper hockey.

It's obviously not done on purpose but the team definitely made it worse this year and I can pretty much guarantee nothing will be done about it to make things better.

I've never needed the game to be perfect; like you said it's basically impossible to do so -- I think it's more than fair to expect them to actually buckle down and work on fixing a ton of quality of life stuff. Many issues we're all used to have been around for literally a decade +. I should not and will not just "it is what it is, roll with the punches" this, it is 100% unacceptable.
  • KidShowtime1867's avatar
    KidShowtime1867
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @sirajs wrote:

    Yes AI are so so bad, they are totally badly set, they defend zones not players https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXRepIuDGTg

    I'd like to know what player was being controlled by the human in this scenario, but yea.. that's terrible.

    Check this one out - and no, I did not call for a line change here:

  • Sega82mega's avatar
    Sega82mega
    2 years ago
    @KidShowtime1867

    What a brilliant guy, awesome idea, I support that guy, give him a raise.

    He was saving energy to 3th period.
  • Limp_KidzKit's avatar
    Limp_KidzKit
    2 years ago
    @sirajs wrote:

    Yes AI are so so bad, they are totally badly set, they defend zones not players https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXRepIuDGTg

    this is exactly right. AI defend meaningless zones programmed into the game in 2007. This is not how hockey works. Not sure how any human can be held accountable for a "mistake" when the AI aren't programmed to play proper fundamental defense. You can't make a "mistake" playing a fictional interpetation of hockey positioning. 

  • sirajs's avatar
    sirajs
    2 years ago

    @KidShowtime1867I was controlling 21 player, i missed hit, then i changed to fox 23 and missed the pokecheck. I can see problem that AI doesnt care about his player, because he is actually Center, so as the game and AI are designed, he just went on his position altought opponent player will be open for the pass. AI must be redesigned and must react on situations and dont hold the zones only

  • b55780397a50e4e1's avatar
    b55780397a50e4e1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago
    @sirajs They destroyed this game all together. Nhl threes was amazing In 23 and the just nuked it to ash. So boring it hurts. More ppl still playing 23 and 24.has been discounted already because everyone knows 24 is terrible
  • Jammalammalam's avatar
    Jammalammalam
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 years ago

    Four games of 3's. Four games of 3's is all I could stomach tonight and I won't be playing this mode ever again. It's not worth it. It's actually laughable how trash this game is at this point.

    Intercepts are not broken, amirite? However, the forward streaking as fast as he can, without the puck even in his vision, is able to one hand receive the puck that's behind him. LOL. ONE HAND.

    Trying to poke a player that's in full hustle with one hand handling the puck? Of course not. I'm using a poke build. The perk I'm using is "supposed" to give me an edge poking against momentum. Hmm.

    Sigh.

    This forward auto-reaches for the puck better than I've seen any D break up a play or intercept the puck. The icing on the cake is shooting it through two people. You ever get that feeling as to why players seem like they're shooting through you? It's because they are. Thanks EA. Thank you.

    .................

    Is this poke mashing? I've been told one timed poke is mashing. In any case, the auto-reach is the best offensive tool in this game. Forget about 50-50 loose pucks. Auto-reach will do most of the work for you and do it so fast that there's never any time to react to it.

    Four games of absolutely trash mechanics, but please keep telling me that my defense is to blame. Please.

  • Jagavekov's avatar
    Jagavekov
    2 years ago
    @Jammalammalam wrote:

    Four games of 3's. Four games of 3's is all I could stomach tonight and I won't be playing this mode ever again. It's not worth it. It's actually laughable how trash this game is at this point.

    Intercepts are not broken, amirite? However, the forward streaking as fast as he can, without the puck even in his vision, is able to one hand receive the puck that's behind him. LOL. ONE HAND.

    I'd like to see the slide show analysis on why the forward should receive that pass like that from people who claim broken interceptions are a "user skill issue"   😃

  • TheUnusedCrayon's avatar
    TheUnusedCrayon
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Jagavekov wrote:
    @Jammalammalam wrote:

    Four games of 3's. Four games of 3's is all I could stomach tonight and I won't be playing this mode ever again. It's not worth it. It's actually laughable how trash this game is at this point.

    Intercepts are not broken, amirite? However, the forward streaking as fast as he can, without the puck even in his vision, is able to one hand receive the puck that's behind him. LOL. ONE HAND.

    I'd like to see the slide show analysis on why the forward should receive that pass like that from people who claim broken interceptions are a "user skill issue"   😃

    I'll summarize for you: 

    -the defender is going too fast

    -the defender turned at the last second

    -the defender isn't holding vision control

    -the defender isn't looking directly at the puck

    -the defender should not be skating

    -skill issue

  • Limp_KidzKit's avatar
    Limp_KidzKit
    2 years ago
    @TheUnusedCrayon wrote:
    @Jagavekov wrote:
    @Jammalammalam wrote:

    Four games of 3's. Four games of 3's is all I could stomach tonight and I won't be playing this mode ever again. It's not worth it. It's actually laughable how trash this game is at this point.

    Intercepts are not broken, amirite? However, the forward streaking as fast as he can, without the puck even in his vision, is able to one hand receive the puck that's behind him. LOL. ONE HAND.

    I'd like to see the slide show analysis on why the forward should receive that pass like that from people who claim broken interceptions are a "user skill issue"   😃

    I'll summarize for you: 

    -the defender is going too fast

    -the defender turned at the last second

    -the defender isn't holding vision control

    -the defender isn't looking directly at the puck

    -the defender should not be skating

    -skill issue

    Meanwhile:

    • the forward is spritning
    • the forwardisn't holding vision control
    • the forward isn't looking directly at the puck
    • the forward is in a horrible spot to receive the puck as evidenced by the animation chosen to catch a super hard headman pass

    offense has zero accountability in this game.

  • rsandersr47's avatar
    rsandersr47
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Limp_KidzKit They don't want to hear that.. it's all about the forward and defense should be far better and work far harder than the forward! Come on!

    Defense is easy! You just have to be in perfect position at all times, use the correct button at all times and if you selected the wrong one you can come to the forums and people will just suggest that you should have picked a different one. Then you just hope you get the right outcome/ animation! Easy!

    @TheUnusedCrayon or anyone else suggesting how easy defense is.. can you let us know when you're streaming? I'd love to see how you're playing! I feel I play pretty solid defense but every game I'm getting at least 1-3 passes that go through my legs WHILE I have vision control and backing up toward the forward who is recieving the pass.. do I need to take a knee? Do I have to stick lift because 91 defensive awareness, quickpick, AND lockdown isn't enough to intercept the pass? Maybe it's a skill issue on my part, so if anyone on here saying it's easy wants to stream I'd be happy to watch!

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