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My buddy is using a playmaker build in EASHL and is dishing out proper cross/shoulder checks just fine.
Didn't realize just needing to pull back then up would cause this much trouble - People also forget that we used to have a dedicated hipcheck button (R3) last gen
I think the hip check overall is fine and I don't care that it's meta but it is 100% overpowered. I got hip check on a forecheck when the other team had pressure last night and we were both skating the same way. I got touched and went flying and he picked up the puck.
Please explain how to hip check a player skating in the same direction? If you cannot explain it, it is OP. I agree it's more in the animations and what happens when contact is made because you automatically go flying but it is also fairly easy to avoid by taking more time instead of flying all over the ice at top speed when your agility nerfed.
- KlariskraysNHL2 years agoHero+
My problem is with how people use it. In the video below it's being misused and the only way to correct this is by nerfing it's movement ability. It should have a very small movement range when performed to combat inappropriate usage. If it wasn't for having 97 agility I'd probably get smoked on illegal hipchecks to the front of the legs.
Regular checking works just fine in the game but if people use the hipcheck more than a common check it means change needs to happen. Hipchecks are meant to be used as a pinch type check usually along the boards/narrow path.
- TTZ_Dipsy2 years agoLegend
@KlariskraysNHL
I don't feel like the hipcheck is being misused here - yes, they are typically used along the boards to separate the carrier from the puck, but mid-ice hits still happen from time to time. If we're gonna add clipping (and change controls to adjust the height of our hits) to the game, they better re-add boarding, hits from behind, and actually enforce interference and "unsportsmanlike" penalties - EA_Aljo2 years ago
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Hey, everyone. Just a quick update. We're keeping an eye on the reports of hipchecking being OP. It's currently being investigated. Thanks for all the feedback.
- Jammalammalam2 years agoSeasoned Veteran
@TTZ_DipsyIt's the frequency of the use and the outcome that's the issue here, lol. Three people tried to hip-check him back to back to back. Now imagine a team that can utilize the hip-check at any time throughout the whole game, all the time. We got tired of it being done to us, so we learned how to do it ourselves. Again, it's the easiest way to separate the puck from the player. Easier than a shoulder check. Easier than a shove. Easier than a poke check. That's a problem.
https://i.imgur.com/nxd6ZjA.gif - KlariskraysNHL2 years agoHero+@Jammalammalam That 2hdn hip check is just so awful in how far he travels to do it and connects.
- TheUnusedCrayon2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Jammalammalam wrote:@TTZ_DipsyIt's the frequency of the use and the outcome that's the issue here, lol. Three people tried to hip-check him back to back to back. Now imagine a team that can utilize the hip-check at any time throughout the whole game, all the time. We got tired of it being done to us, so we learned how to do it ourselves. Again, it's the easiest way to separate the puck from the player. Easier than a shoulder check. Easier than a shove. Easier than a poke check. That's a problem.
https://i.imgur.com/nxd6ZjA.gif
Perfect demonstration of how bad it is and how top teams will utilize it. - Jammalammalam2 years agoSeasoned Veteran@KlariskraysNHL Lol. Yup. We do it. We're good at it. It works. Not ashamed to say it's just dumb at this point and it's an issue. Every time it feels something was fixed from 23 (Like the LT ballerina), something else comes along to replace it.
NHL 23 far side wrist shot cheese? Don't need that anymore because your goalie will be flopping around the crease for no reason for easy goals in no time with only about one bar of pressure which equals your goalie having a spasm flop attack.
https://i.imgur.com/47AF5Kq.gif
Ugh. One step forward, two steps back with NHL every, single, year. - 2 years ago
By all means buff shoves and regular checks in order to combat ballerinas but this hip checking meta right now in 6s is just beyond dumb and unrealistic.
- KidShowtime18672 years agoHero
@Jammalammalam wrote:
@KlariskraysNHLLol. Yup. We do it. We're good at it. It works. Not ashamed to say it's just dumb at this point and it's an issue. Every time it feels something was fixed from 23 (Like the LT ballerina), something else comes along to replace it.
NHL 23 far side wrist shot cheese? Don't need that anymore because your goalie will be flopping around the crease for no reason for easy goals in no time with only about one bar of pressure which equals your goalie having a spasm flop attack.
https://i.imgur.com/47AF5Kq.gif
Ugh. One step forward, two steps back with NHL every, single, year.Yea, not a huge fan of goalies turning into beer-league goalies. Goalie fatigue during full pressure scenarios doesn't make much sense to me. Many goalies thrive under pressure and this blanket approach that every goalie is suddenly in dire straights after 30-seconds of pressure in the 1st period is just.. weird.
- Jammalammalam2 years agoSeasoned Veteran@KidShowtime1867 The pressure system is one of the ideas I really liked. It makes sense. Pass the puck around in the zone, take great shots, and be rewarded. I just think the players losing stamina super fast and not being able to retrieve or clear pucks is enough. I think the goalie can do without a stamina meter to be honest.
- TheUnusedCrayon2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Jammalammalam wrote:
@KidShowtime1867The pressure system is one of the ideas I really liked. It makes sense. Pass the puck around in the zone, take great shots, and be rewarded. I just think the players losing stamina super fast and not being able to retrieve or clear pucks is enough. I think the goalie can do without a stamina meter to be honest.Yeah in theory it's good but then pucks go through you, you lose every 50/50 puck battle despite positioning and even up to like 20/80.
Possessing the puck fills up the bar way too much way too quickly and passing shouldn't fill the bar. Stamina drains way too fast.