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@EA_Aljo please, I beg you, do everything you can to run this issue up the chain for us. This is absolutely gamebreaking to people who use LT & A properly.
There are ways to actually fix this problem, using the methods OP just laid out. Breaking a feature purposefully to achieve a desired goal is, simply put, lazy and unacceptable to long time fans of the sport and this franchise. Anyone else in any other profession would be canned on the spot for taking shortcuts like this.
I know you have limited sway on final decisions but we're all just asking for you to do everything you can to help us out on this.
@MisterrAndersen wrote:
@EA_Aljo please, I beg you, do everything you can to run this issue up the chain for us. This is absolutely gamebreaking to people who use LT & A properly.
There are ways to actually fix this problem, using the methods OP just laid out. Breaking a feature purposefully to achieve a desired goal is, simply put, lazy and unacceptable to long time fans of the sport and this franchise. Anyone else in any other profession would be canned on the spot for taking shortcuts like this.
I know you have limited sway on final decisions but we're all just asking for you to do everything you can to help us out on this.
I really don't have any say on final decisions. That's up to the team. I just gather your feedback and report it all to them. That said, I wouldn't expect this to return. Hopefully, we'll see changes so that it can be used in a manner that doesn't get exploited and cause unrealistic skating. For now though, it's gone and I don't see it returning. Not anytime soon at least. As with every year, we have to adapt to the changes.
- 2 years ago@EA_Aljo
"Hopefully, we'll see changes so that it can be used in a manner that doesn't get exploited and cause unrealistic skating."
Literally just make it so you can't use it while you're skating....
If you are just the feedback gatherer, why can't we get an answer on why they didn't have a dev fix the actual problem. This is just throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The people that are pissed hate the spammers just as much. We just want to be able to turn in a given direction. Nerf it. Make it the worst thing in the world unless you just want to turn your body going like 4mph. There are ways to fix this that let people turn their bodies and don't exploit the game. I lead a team of 10 engineers at my day job and this is NOT how you fix stuff. I play hockey IRL and this is legitimately infuriating.
We're talking about "turning left" or "turning right" for christ's sake, that doesn't involve skating in a giant circle.- EA_Aljo2 years ago
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@ScottMallon1 wrote:
@EA_Aljo
"Hopefully, we'll see changes so that it can be used in a manner that doesn't get exploited and cause unrealistic skating."
Literally just make it so you can't use it while you're skating....
If you are just the feedback gatherer, why can't we get an answer on why they didn't have a dev fix the actual problem. This is just throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The people that are pissed hate the spammers just as much. We just want to be able to turn in a given direction. Nerf it. Make it the worst thing in the world unless you just want to turn your body going like 4mph. There are ways to fix this that let people turn their bodies and don't exploit the game. I lead a team of 10 engineers at my day job and this is NOT how you fix stuff. I play hockey IRL and this is legitimately infuriating.
We're talking about "turning left" or "turning right" for christ's sake, that doesn't involve skating in a giant circle.As you said, I'm just the feedback gatherer. I don't decide why things are changed and I'm not involved in those discussions. Regardless, I already explained why it was changed. This was an exploit. I hope we find another way to turn in a given direction. I certainly miss being able to do that.
This is also a video game that is attempting to replicate how a human physically plays hockey. Not only that, but converting arms, legs and their freedom of motion to buttons and sticks on a gamepad while also trying to counter ways that can be exploited. I'm sure rotating a player's body sounds like a simple task, but if it were that simple to make it work perfectly, it would have been done. We don't want to just take away this functionality as the easy way out. We try to find proper solutions. Mapping dozens of moves to 14 buttons and 2 sticks that try to replicate how a human plays hockey is a pretty tremendous task, but obviously doesn't cover every possible movement people can do. As I said, hopefully, we'll have a better way to handle this in the future. In the meantime, I'm very sorry you're not happy with this change. I hope we can hit that mark sometime down the road.
- 2 years ago
If L2 "vision control" allows your player to pivot their hips in one direction (usually towards the goal), then why can't there be an option to pivot the opposite way? I'll give an example of a very common scenario when this makes sense.
Let's say you are a left handed shooter and you're skating down the right wing. You enter the offensive zone. There's a defender to your left that has inside position between you and the net. You want to pass it to the defenseman behind you on the right side blue line. You can either A.) Make a low percentage, blind pass behind you while your body faces the opposite direction of the target. That is very likely to miss the intended target. B) Skate in a clockwise circle to perform a "button hook" away from the defender and make a pass while facing the target, which takes a long time and is more easily defended. C) Hold L2 to pivot your body and stick towards the defender, which makes you vulnerable to a poke check. Or D) Hold L2 + X to pivot your body away from the defender towards the boards, and face the target at the blue line and make an accurate pass.
There are many other scenarios when pivoting in this manner makes sense. It's not an unrealistic maneuver. It's pivoting in the exact same way that L2 does, but the opposite way.
The issue with L2 + X is that you can continue skating at a high speed while pivoting, which makes it spammable. So then don't allow us to continue skating while pressing those buttons and force us to glide. And make a cooldown so you can't repeatedly pivot in a short period of time.
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