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Explain this one, this was a longer clip of me standing him up but, I should of recorded the whole sequence but this is the main part I find stupid.
@llamaverox wrote:https://youtu.be/o5xUk4ksHN0?si=9QJZVZKt5oi43DR-
Explain this one, this was a longer clip of me standing him up but, I should of recorded the whole sequence but this is the main part I find stupid.
What's stupid about it? The two of you are jostling for possession and position.
At one point, you're in a perfect position to execute a stick lift but you choose to actively skate away from the situation:
There's a few frames at the beginning of the battle where you've successfully knocked the puck loose but you're continuing to actively skate in the opposite direction, right into your opponent:
Users with the faster twitch-skill will win in these scenarios because they're quicker to recognize when possession has been knocked loose and/or obtained. It's a real skill to have when playing competitively.
The Anaheim player in this scenario is showing a slow response to what's happening whereas the other player is patient and sticking with the puck and gets the better of the loose puck because of the Anaheim player skating away from it.
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@llamaverox wrote:https://youtu.be/o5xUk4ksHN0?si=9QJZVZKt5oi43DR-
Explain this one, this was a longer clip of me standing him up but, I should of recorded the whole sequence but this is the main part I find stupid.
What's stupid about it? The two of you are jostling for possession and position.
Users with the faster twitch-skill will win in these scenarios
True. Definitely some wonky stick on body incidental, though.
@llamaverox wrote:
@KidShowtime1867That's exactly why I don't like posting videos, you highlight what you want to show in screenshots when the whole video is needed for context. I'm done with your post quite frankly.
I'm highlighting parts of a video that you provided. I'm not making anything up. You can take my explanations and re-watch the video to discern my reasoning for yourself.
His stick even phases through my player to give him even the ability to go for that puck.
It's why I want simulation, the game would play so much better if you couldn't just walk through players.
@llamaverox wrote:
@KidShowtime1867You are highlighting what you want to show, not what the video shows
I am showing clips and stills from a video you provided. You are choosing what I'm showing.
@llamaverox wrote: I have body position he walks THROUGH, my body to get his stick on the puck.
At no point does his body phase through yours.
There's a frame or two where your player suffers an animation glitch but it's non-impactful to the overall outcome:
@llamaverox wrote: I should have that puck when his stick is between my legs, I should have it when he's to my right and gets priority over my mcdavid who is standing with proper body position on his right thigh. I should have a puck pick up when he's once again trying to skate through my player
The only moment his stick can be considered between your legs is when you're actively skating away from the puck
@KidShowtime1867I'm actively trying to dislodge the puck with my skates, I am saying his stick phases not his body. He literally shouldn't even be able to have his stick on proper position there. I should already have the puck and be going the other way anyway in that screenshot. We just completely disagree on what that video shows, how are we supposed to agree on the game.
My point is simple, I have body position and his guy picks it up, and keeps it despite being inside mcdavid's body position.
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@llamaverox wrote:
@KidShowtime1867I'm actively trying to dislodge the puck with my skates, I am saying his stick phases not his body. He literally shouldn't even be able to have his stick on proper position there. I should already have the puck and be going the other way anyway in that screenshot. We just completely disagree on what that video shows, how are we supposed to agree on the game.
My point is simple, I have body position and his guy picks it up, and keeps it despite being inside mcdavid's body position.
You can't play the puck when the stick passes through a body. If we didn't let this happen, arms would twist in ways that would break them. Sticks would get caught between legs and under arms. This would happen all the time and make for a pretty frustrating experience while your players un-pretzled and got back in the play. You also run the risk of unintended penalties and injuries. I get that clipping isn't realistic. However, it's a necessary evil for an overall better experience.
@llamaverox, @KidShowtime1867 I feel like you guys are just talking past each other.
@llamaveroxis has a point in regards to body position. His player is in a spot where, if the game had 100% physical interaction between sticks and bodies, he should be able to easily get the puck first because his opponent literally has to drag his stick through both legs to get to the puck.
What @KidShowtime1867 is getting at ( and please correct me if I'm wrong ) is that in EA NHL you don't really have the body position you think you do because the physical interactions just aren't there. The other player can just drag his stick through you and be battling for the puck despite your attempt to block him out.
Personally, I think plays like this just look *wrong* and I wish that body position in regards to sticks would matter more. But sticks phasing through body parts is just an aspect of the game we have to deal with for now.
Community ManagerObviously, dragging a stick through a body isn't ideal. You kind of have to suspend your disbelief. A real player would probably be able to move their stick around the opposition and continue making an attempt to pick it up.
@EA_Aljowould something like "scoring chances" be able to be a statistic that is tracked in game? I feel like having more statistics would be nice. Maybe "unblocked" cant be tracked but just shots inside that area.
Just in case its needed, the NHL defines scoring chances as: Scoring chances are unblocked shots from the crease out to the faceoff dots in the circles and up to the tops of those circles.
