NHL 24 Gameplay Tuner Updates - May 23rd, 2024 A new gameplay tuner will be released tomorrow at 1 PM ET. Here are the details: Community Feedback: The current accelerated clock in the last minute of the game and OT reduces some fun, climactic finishes to the game. Updated the final 60 seconds of the 3rd Period and OT to be 60 real-time seconds. Developer Feedback: We want to continue to create more incentives to use underutilized X-Factors and allow players to develop new strategies: Shnipe - Increased Shnipe Zone/Superstar bonus to shot power on settled wrist shots by 50%. Off Rush Slapshots - Increased Off the Rush Zone/Superstar bonus to shot power for in-stride slap shots by 50% Crease Crasher - Increased Crease Crasher Zone/Superstar bonus to shot power on rebound shots by 150%. Total Eclipse - Increased Total Eclipse Zone/Superstar impact to goalie screens by 20%. No Contest - Increased No Contest Zone/Superstar bonus to 50/50 puck battles by 10%.

I can appreciate the concise post but I think it'd be really cool if you guys could disclose what the multipliers actually sit at post-update, rather than just how they've shifted. I'd like to be able to compare the Close Quarters and Make it Snappy multipliers to that of Crease Crasher to see if it's worthwhile, you know? Just trying Crease Crasher for even 5 games isn't likely to demonstrate anything as clearly as the numbers would. Either way, adjustments on abilities at this time of year is a good approach. I just think that there's a good amount of information that should be better communicated. Having the ability multipliers discoverable in-game would especially be better than "Greatly increases" or whatever the descriptions are right now. I would like to add that this would have probably clarified that the update to Truculence was not worth panicking over, as so many did. If we have numbers for Crease Crasher, you'll get less people saying "yeah, I don't know if it really does anything" and the dreaded "Impossible to quantify." I think that's a very effective way of building "incentive" to try them as is your goal

@TTZ_Dipsy wrote:I want the AI to play positionally perfect too. I need them to stop dumping the puck on a powerplay. I crave for them to stop waiting for me to cross the blue line before passing.These frustrate me to no end as well. I play EASHL 5s, though our LD only plays occasionally, so often time we have an AI defender. I try to be realistic, its going to be impossible for them to make AI that--while using the same ruleset as a human player--can read the play as effectively. However, there are definitely some mind bogglingly bad habits that should have been smoothed out of the game ages ago. Some go back a few years:Waiting to headman/breakout pass a puck, even with a wide open lane, until its too late. You know they were targeting you as they will eventually throw it, but by then you are either offside, been covered, or full stopped as they sat there holding it.Flipping or dumping the puck without any contextual awareness. Maybe you are down by 1 late in the game and desperately need puck possession. Lord help you if you are on the PK and the compy gets it. Always throws it down the ice, even if you frantically call for the pass.Bum rushes toward their own goalie with or without the puck that often result in own goals. Not AI specific as it happens with humans too (a slap the puck out of the crease mechanic would help), but at least humans can adapt how they approach.The complete lack of interest in playing defense on some (not all or even most) rushes. Will just back up slowly and stand there. No attempt to angle off. No attempt to hit or poke,And most frustrating, the AI's propensity to leave the LD spot and zip over to within a foot of our RD. We've tried it with all different strategies set and its not a result of him trying to cover for one of us out of position. The RD is there already, the forwards are deep and attempting to stay away from the LD. He should be generally at left point, not glued to our RD.

@KidShowtime1867 wrote:@llamaverox wrote:When trying to defend passing lanes, pucks going right through players, as offense has 100% puck pickup on passes but defense is completely out to dry on it.You can absolutely be in a passing lane and guarantee 100% interception if you properly position your player in order to do so. If you can't, then you engage the intended recipient. Defence 101. Let's not exaggerate. You can absolutely be in good position to pick off a pass and prevent the offensive player from getting a shot off and still get screwed by the game mechanics.This happened just the other night. Defensive player facing the incoming pass, in a glide and in body position such that the offensive player should have no way to get their stick on the puck. Instead of picking off the pass or at least disrupting it with his stick the game chooses to use a kick animation which fails. Then the offensive player quite literally phases his stick through both the defender's feet/legs to get a shot off. The icing on the cake is the goalie failing to make the save because he's trying to stop a completely different shot.And no, I don't think the correct play here is for the defender to turn his back to the play and try to shove the offensive player.

There has never been a sim hockey game, every year the game is arcadey. It's even more arcadey now than it has ever been. People want simulation style games. They want to replicate the sport they see on TV and the assertion that they don't is why this game gets disliked. If you have a passionate fan base word of mouth sells your game as we bring people into it. Making an arcade game and hoping people like it doesn't do that. It's just not correct in what brings people into video games I'm sorry. The highest selling games are hardcore that brings in casuals because the fanbase is rabid. You can see it with every game that gets big. They have arcade visuals with hardcore systems of gameplay.In sports games you cite Madden and FC and for years they have gotten bad community reviews yet they still sell because the sports are popular not because the games are great. You literally own the rights to football it's the only football game people can play. Madden sells because of that. NHL is the same way. You are the only hockey game on the market. You get sales because of that. Not because your gameplay is amazing.

@KidShowtime1867 The community not initially understanding something isn't a reason not to do it. It just means that there needs to be more of an effort to educate players on why things happen they way they do. Doing this in a clear and constructive fashion goes a long way. Nobody's born with the knowledge of how stick interactions work in EA NHL video games. The fact that you and I and many others understand the current mechanics is proof that people can learn.There's always going to be a sub-set of players who either are incapable or unwilling to understand explanations of gameplay mechanics, but I don't think EA's strategy moving forward needs to be based around them.

NHL 24 Gameplay Tuner Updates - May 23rd, 2024

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llamaverox
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo Which is why I think the game is bad, I don't suspend my disbelief on that, I get annoyed and frustrated and don't want to play anymore. I'd have a better clip if I didn't turn off my game immediately after in disgust because this is 5 seconds of a 20 minute game of frustration. When you close app you can't save clips of games you just played or my clip would of been longer showcasing more of what was only half of that play. Body position should matter more, plain and simple.
FourZeroVI
New Veteran
2 years ago
@EA_Aljowould something like "scoring chances" be able to be a statistic that is tracked in game? I feel like having more statistics would be nice. Maybe "unblocked" cant be tracked but just shots inside that area.

Just in case its needed, the NHL defines scoring chances as: Scoring chances are unblocked shots from the crease out to the faceoff dots in the circles and up to the tops of those circles.
PlayoffError
Hero
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo Yeah, a real player would be able to navigate their stick around their opponent. But it would take longer than it does to just drag their stick directly through another player to get from point A to B.

Honestly, I think a tweak to slightly increase the time between phasing through a body part and being able to interact with the puck again would give the person with better position enough of an edge to make these situations play out in a way more people would find acceptable.
MarvnZindler
New Ace
2 years ago
@llamaverox wrote:
https://youtu.be/o5xUk4ksHN0?si=9QJZVZKt5oi43DR-
Explain this one, this was a longer clip of me standing him up but, I should of recorded the whole sequence but this is the main part I find stupid.
I think Showtime's comments on this clip are pretty fair in general, but one thing that stands out more to me than the Anaheim player losing the puck battle is that it seems like the Anaheim player, despite at times being in position to pick up the puck, never even attempts to grab the puck. The Anaheim player even stands over the puck and still doesn't make any kind of play for the puck. That doesn't make much sense to me.
I'd be curious to know the builds the two players were using. What were the defensive/offensive awareness stats? Was either player using no contest? There's a lot we don't know about this clip.
What I will say, not that this sentiment is entirely applicable to this clip, but I simply do not care for x-factors. I don't like the idea that a player can win a scenario in the game because an icon lit up. If we were to get a kind of sim style mode in EASHL, I'd hope such a mode would have zero x-factors. I think it would be awesome if we had a mode where everything was decided based purely on user input and reaction speed.
Oh, to dream.
KlariskraysNHL
Hero+
2 years ago
@PlayoffError While it sounds good it would probably lead to many more defensive woes getting slow animations leading to more complaints.

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