EA_Aljo
Community Manager
Community ManagerNHL 24 Presentation Deep Dive
Hey, NHL Fans! Today we have released the Presentation Deep Dive. Check it out below!
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EA_AljoCommunity Manager
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@Beauts90 wrote:
@EA_Aljo wrote:
I don't know that I'd call the return of the old True Broadcast camera being mentioned as a selling point. It's more being stated as part of our focus on listening to the community. We've been told many times that we're ignoring community feedback and are working to turn that around.
Part of the statement about “ignoring the community” includes making major changes just for the sake of making changes without any data proving it will result in a positive change and not having to deal with that backlash in the first place.
We make changes with the intent to improve the game for you all. Obviously, we're not going to make everyone happy. We have acted on a lot of the community feedback and we're also adding our own design presentation elements. I really don't think we're ever going to add everything that's being requested. In no way does that mean we're ignoring you. There are a ton of requests and it's impossible to make everyone happy. Gameplay is always going to take priority over presentation. As I mentioned before, with most people wanting to play the game rather than watch it, we have to have that as the bigger focus. That doesn't mean we can't achieve both, but it means those finer details with presentation have to wait.
Personally, what I am wondering about though is, do you want a game where everything looks the same as you see on TV? This is just a personal curiosity. For me, I already watch a ton of hockey on TV. I guess I want the game to offer something a bit different that gets me more immersed in an activity that I'll never play out in the real world such as playing hockey on TV, on the NHL level, being a superstar, etc. I already know what it's like to sit on the couch and watch a game. I'm more interested in trying to live out the on-ice action. Adding something like the flex cam amps up that excitement and adds another layer of immersion.
I'm not saying an authentic, true to life broadcast wouldn't be cool though. I really dug the intros with Doc and Eddie with the arena fly-bys. I'd love to see teams coming out of the tunnel and taking the ice as well as goalie stats, real on-ice projections, etc. We'll just have to wait and see what happens in the coming years.
@EA_Aljo The flex came is the complete opposite of immersion, What NHL arena dims the lights, turns on a spotlight, has someone skate out onto the ice with a camera, for every goal celebration home or away?
Make it for GWG's or milestones, like how you get the extended celebration in 22 for milestones. It'd feel more fresh. Although an option to turn it off/ remove any pressure meter presentation from the ice/ boards would work just as well lol it's probably allot easier to implement.
Make it for GWG's or milestones, like how you get the extended celebration in 22 for milestones. It'd feel more fresh. Although an option to turn it off/ remove any pressure meter presentation from the ice/ boards would work just as well lol it's probably allot easier to implement.
- EA_Aljo
@bg0vzeyqov1y wrote:
@EA_Aljo The flex came is the complete opposite of immersion, What NHL arena dims the lights, turns on a spotlight, has someone skate out onto the ice with a camera, for every goal celebration home or away?
Make it for GWG's or milestones, like how you get the extended celebration in 22 for milestones. It'd feel more fresh. Although an option to turn it off/ remove any pressure meter presentation from the ice/ boards would work just as well lol it's probably allot easier to implement.That's my point. Not everyone has the same requirements for immersion. Also, I'm just saying what works for me personally, as a longtime fan of this game. I've been playing it for the better part of the last 30 years. I don't mind changes to the formula that provide an experience that I can already get by watching games on TV. That said, my main interest is gameplay. I'm already very focused on the on-ice action and controlling my player/team so presentation isn't really something I'm too concerned with since I'm very focused on strategy, how my opponent is playing, what habits they have with faceoffs, where they're taking their shots from, etc. Again, not knocking how cool it would be to have a totally authentic representation of what you see on TV though.
@EA_AljoGameplay is the core of the game offline or online so I agree that the main focus should be gameplay, I want the CPU to shoot the puck more/ the players to not skate into the boards or into to each other, etc.
The biggest reason why people are up in arms about the presentation I think is cause you see this kind of replay every game, after every goal, like how in franchise mode your players will all keep their hair the same exact length their entire careers. Or how Carrlyn would keep talking about the exact same x-factors, every game. The only way to turn off x-factor replays/ her dialogue in 22 was to remove every single x-factor from every player, that's horrible game design.
People want the visuals/ presentation to feel as fresh, variable for as long as possible, options in videogames (gameplay/ hiding UI elements, settings etc.) should be included as much as possible in any game made nowadays, It's the best way to tailor a game towards as many people as possible.- EA_Aljo
@bg0vzeyqov1y wrote:
@EA_Aljo Gameplay is the core of the game offline or online so I agree that the main focus should be gameplay, I want the CPU to shoot the puck more/ the players to not skate into the boards or into to each other, etc.
The biggest reason why people are up in arms about the presentation I think is cause you see this kind of replay every game, after every goal, like how in franchise mode your players will all keep their hair the same exact length their entire careers.
People want the visuals/ presentation to feel as fresh, variable for as long as possible, options in videogames (gameplay/ hiding UI elements, settings etc.) should be included as much as possible in any game made nowadays, It's the best way to tailor a game towards as many people as possible.That's fair. I get seeing presentation elements over and over again can get stale. Especially with how much many of us play this game. It would be cool if the players could age up over their careers or try out different looks. That would probably not be too high a priority though as there are much bigger requests.
I would really love a UI with customizable elements though. Turning on and off various elements would certainly be great. Hopefully, we'll see this happen. - @EA_Aljo The listening to feedback (ex. hybrid controls returning) the focus on gameplay itself, even giving us offline players a future plan of any sort has been a great welcome change!
I so badly want to see the entire community, offline and online, enjoying these regardless. Hope as many changes as possible can come to these games, that makes me want to spend even close to 90$CAD again like I did for 22 lol I very much want to not fall out of love with hockey games! - @bg0vzeyqov1y But see that is how you view it. I see it as I'm the star so acknowledge me. Especially for online gaming it's rubbing salt in the wounds. Don't be shocked to see future presentation not just with offline modes in mind.
