This used to be a game that took skill to be good at. Many of us have spent decades trying to master the skills to get where we are now. It's more than obvious that EA have given up on us loyal fan...
Yeah the lack of skill gap, one button hitting, and overall ability for people to stay in the game by getting weak goals where the goalies make mistakes for wide open nets is punishing.
Yeah I totally agree. I grinded out every battlepass so far since 24 came out and played regularly, but what really did it for me was the update a couple of months ago that made all the AI worse. That broke the game and ruined the experience for me, as I thought the game was in a pretty decent spot right before then, all things considered. I'll still play a handful of times here and there with the boys, but I don't have a desire to grind out 75 levels again with the state this game is in currently.
@Destroyer95 I truthfully thought it was bad on release, I didn't want to buy it after the beta got convinced by my EASHL gaming friends and have not been a fan of it.
My biggest complaint is it feels like if you put effort into being active, the game rewards the other player because the puck control is based on standing still. So the more active you try to play, the less success you have. There are some good goals scored sure, but how many bad ones go in before that? 2 or 3.
In Hut it's worse. The only play people do is run to the red line, do a move to skate along it and pass backdoor for a cross crease tap in where the far side defender is facing the other way and doesn't even attempt to cover it, leading to 2 or 3 goals a game.
Point shots that get tipped.
Or shots from the circle, or slot after spinning around or cheesing the non controlled AI to block where you are going for easy rips. As AI won't switch to the guy with the puck if they skate right in front of him. Meaning you have to switch giving up momentum. With Usually the goalie moving out of the way if you get it clean. For snipes that feel cheesy.
Which is what bothers me everything feels cheesy. One button hits let's people hold it to get a speed boost meaning they can run a guy out of position and it won't matter. As goalies bail out what isn't a money play.
My biggest complaint is it feels like if you put effort into being active, the game rewards the other player because the puck control is based on standing still. So the more active you try to play, the less success you have. There are some good goals scored sure, but how many bad ones go in before that? 2 or 3.
All good points. This game has been the same thing for years. It’s not about skill. Countless times I’ve outshot another player by at least twenty plus shots and have lost to them on their 9 shot attempts, off of these rinky dink attempts. The game just has so many glaring glitches. The updates are complete garbage and in my opinion have made the game even worse off. MLB the Show has been out for 2 weeks and already they have done 3 or so updates to things on the game. With NHL we are lucky to get one a month and they usually make the game more unplayable
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anyone.","id":"message:9531886","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":169,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:248459"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:nhl-24-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:9531886"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:9531886"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" This used to be a game that took skill to be good at. 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This used to be a game that took skill to be good at. Many of us have spent decades trying to master the skills to get where we are now.
It's more than obvious that EA have given up on us loyal fans and dumbed the game down that much that just about anyone can pick up the game and start winning.
From day one the pressure system has been flawed. Don't let them kid you on it was a good idea and that they have tried to improve it since. It's in place so those that have any skill or have a stronger team are held back due to ridiculous fatigue mechanics and useless line changes that work when they want. How often do you see the CPU totally fatigued and unable to skate at full speed. When do you ever see the CPU having a full team on the ice that's totally fatigued... You don't!
When the opposition has full pressure it wouldn't matter if you had a full team of 99 ovr players, you ain't getting that puck until there's a stop in the game. The opposition turns into super human hockey players no matter if they are rated 60 or 70. Yet my 95 players have turned into special Olympic ice hockey players because there's been a few shots on goal.
Don't get me started on Total Control. If the pressure system didn't level the playing field they sure made sure it did with that addition. Forget the ridiculous one button dekes because in the grand scheme of things they are pretty useless during a game. It's the one button guided missile checking. It takes zero skill to check using total control and is more effective than those using skill stick, which takes timing and skill to be good at.
If you really want to level the playing field make the objectives and moments easier because as they are just now you either need to buy packs or spent every minute of your spare time trying to achieve the virtually impossible. Like who thought it was a good idea to to add 'score 4 goals in the bottom left corner with <add player> on Superstar. I tried d at the beginning when the game was released, now I don't even look at them. If I do complete any of the main objectives it's purely down to luck. Why would I want to add a lower rated player to my team to be rewarded with a power up or a event card I won't use.
Honestly I can't believe how out of touch EA and their devs are with the NHL community, especially the loyal fan base.
This used to be a game that took skill to be good at. Many of us have spent decades trying to master the skills to get where we are now.
It's more than obvious that EA have given up on us loyal fans and dumbed the game down that much that just about anyone can pick up the game and start winning.
From day one the pressure system has been flawed. Don't let them kid you on it was a good idea and that they have tried to improve it since. It's in place so those that have any skill or have a stronger team are held back due to ridiculous fatigue mechanics and useless line changes that work when they want. How often do you see the CPU totally fatigued and unable to skate at full speed. When do you ever see the CPU having a full team on the ice that's totally fatigued... You don't!
When the opposition has full pressure it wouldn't matter if you had a full team of 99 ovr players, you ain't getting that puck until there's a stop in the game. The opposition turns into super human hockey players no matter if they are rated 60 or 70. Yet my 95 players have turned into special Olympic ice hockey players because there's been a few shots on goal.
Don't get me started on Total Control. If the pressure system didn't level the playing field they sure made sure it did with that addition. Forget the ridiculous one button dekes because in the grand scheme of things they are pretty useless during a game. It's the one button guided missile checking. It takes zero skill to check using total control and is more effective than those using skill stick, which takes timing and skill to be good at.
If you really want to level the playing field make the objectives and moments easier because as they are just now you either need to buy packs or spent every minute of your spare time trying to achieve the virtually impossible. Like who thought it was a good idea to to add 'score 4 goals in the bottom left corner with <add player> on Superstar. I tried d at the beginning when the game was released, now I don't even look at them. If I do complete any of the main objectives it's purely down to luck. Why would I want to add a lower rated player to my team to be rewarded with a power up or a event card I won't use.
Honestly I can't believe how out of touch EA and their devs are with the NHL community, especially the loyal fan base.
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Yeah I totally agree. I grinded out every battlepass so far since 24 came out and played regularly, but what really did it for me was the update a couple of months ago that made all the AI worse. That broke the game and ruined the experience for me, as I thought the game was in a pretty decent spot right before then, all things considered. I'll still play a handful of times here and there with the boys, but I don't have a desire to grind out 75 levels again with the state this game is in currently.
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Yeah I totally agree. I grinded out every battlepass so far since 24 came out and played regularly, but what really did it for me was the update a couple of months ago that made all the AI worse. That broke the game and ruined the experience for me, as I thought the game was in a pretty decent spot right before then, all things considered. I'll still play a handful of times here and there with the boys, but I don't have a desire to grind out 75 levels again with the state this game is in currently.
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Yeah the lack of skill gap, one button hitting, and overall ability for people to stay in the game by getting weak goals where the goalies make mistakes for wide open nets is punishing.
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Yeah the lack of skill gap, one button hitting, and overall ability for people to stay in the game by getting weak goals where the goalies make mistakes for wide open nets is punishing.
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My biggest complaint is it feels like if you put effort into being active, the game rewards the other player because the puck control is based on standing still. So the more active you try to play, the less success you have. There are some good goals scored sure, but how many bad ones go in before that? 2 or 3.
In Hut it's worse. The only play people do is run to the red line, do a move to skate along it and pass backdoor for a cross crease tap in where the far side defender is facing the other way and doesn't even attempt to cover it, leading to 2 or 3 goals a game.
Point shots that get tipped.
Or shots from the circle, or slot after spinning around or cheesing the non controlled AI to block where you are going for easy rips. As AI won't switch to the guy with the puck if they skate right in front of him. Meaning you have to switch giving up momentum. With Usually the goalie moving out of the way if you get it clean. For snipes that feel cheesy.
Which is what bothers me everything feels cheesy. One button hits let's people hold it to get a speed boost meaning they can run a guy out of position and it won't matter. As goalies bail out what isn't a money play.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":3,"postTime":"2024-03-29T18:53:46.116Z","lastPublishTime":"2024-03-29T18:53:46.116Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1927},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:nhl-24-en/category:nhl-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:nhl-24-general-discussion-en/message:9531886/message:9531890","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8aXwzfDM5OjF8aW50LDk1MzE4OTEsOTUzMTg5MQ","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:9531891"}}]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:9531891":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:9531891","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Rank:rank:29":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:29","position":36,"name":"Rising Scout","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:292140":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:292140","uid":292140,"login":"BigCastle00","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2024-02-02T00:34:45.026Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1721239731000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:29"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:292140"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:9531891":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":9531891,"id":"message:9531891","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:258515"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":1,"depth":4,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:nhl-24-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:9531890"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:9531886"},"subject":"Re: Nhl 24 the game for everyone and anyone.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:9531891"},"body":"
My biggest complaint is it feels like if you put effort into being active, the game rewards the other player because the puck control is based on standing still. So the more active you try to play, the less success you have. There are some good goals scored sure, but how many bad ones go in before that? 2 or 3.
100%. Spot on.
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All good points. This game has been the same thing for years. It’s not about skill. Countless times I’ve outshot another player by at least twenty plus shots and have lost to them on their 9 shot attempts, off of these rinky dink attempts. The game just has so many glaring glitches. The updates are complete garbage and in my opinion have made the game even worse off. MLB the Show has been out for 2 weeks and already they have done 3 or so updates to things on the game. With NHL we are lucky to get one a month and they usually make the game more unplayable
