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Hypothetical scenarios being conjured up to allegedly demonstrate how bad the a.i. is just isn't going to get us anywhere. I understand you're pitting CPU v CPU and then generating feedback on the forecheck based on that but why would you do that when cpu v cpu means literally nothing?
You're omitting the human element completely.
@Limp_KidzKit wrote:1. F1 not truly forcing the play to the strong-side
2. F2 "crashing" down on puck carrier in support of F1
3. F3 usually found standing still or doing some sort of shuffle while not bothering to cover the opponent's middle-lane forward
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Who's controlling the F's here? What responsibility does the human have? How do attributes affect the positioning?
You're passionate about demonstrating your hockey knowledge, but you're not giving any in-game examples that actually demonstrate the erroneous a.i.
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:Hypothetical scenarios being conjured up to allegedly demonstrate how bad the a.i. is just isn't going to get us anywhere. I understand you're pitting CPU v CPU and then generating feedback on the forecheck based on that but why would you do that when cpu v cpu means literally nothing?
You're omitting the human element completely.
@Limp_KidzKit wrote:1. F1 not truly forcing the play to the strong-side
2. F2 "crashing" down on puck carrier in support of F1
3. F3 usually found standing still or doing some sort of shuffle while not bothering to cover the opponent's middle-lane forward
.Who's controlling the F's here? What responsibility does the human have? How do attributes affect the positioning?
You're passionate about demonstrating your hockey knowledge, but you're not giving any in-game examples that actually demonstrate the erroneous a.i.
Hold on a minute... let's say you're in a 1v1 game and you're controlling your D-man while your 3 forwards take care of the offensive zone forecheck? If the case then turned out to be as Limp_KidsKit said, then that would mean the AI does not know how to forecheck properly, right? I've personally never seen the F1 angle the puck carrier to one side correctly unless I'm doing it myself and usually, my other 2 forwards are out of position anyway.
@NeonSkyline21 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:Hypothetical scenarios being conjured up to allegedly demonstrate how bad the a.i. is just isn't going to get us anywhere. I understand you're pitting CPU v CPU and then generating feedback on the forecheck based on that but why would you do that when cpu v cpu means literally nothing?
You're omitting the human element completely.
@Limp_KidzKit wrote:1. F1 not truly forcing the play to the strong-side
2. F2 "crashing" down on puck carrier in support of F1
3. F3 usually found standing still or doing some sort of shuffle while not bothering to cover the opponent's middle-lane forward
.Who's controlling the F's here? What responsibility does the human have? How do attributes affect the positioning?
You're passionate about demonstrating your hockey knowledge, but you're not giving any in-game examples that actually demonstrate the erroneous a.i.
Hold on a minute... let's say you're in a 1v1 game and you're controlling your D-man while your 3 forwards take care of the offensive zone forecheck? If the case then turned out to be as Limp_KidsKit said, then that would mean the AI does not know how to forecheck properly, right? I've personally never seen the F1 angle the puck carrier to one side correctly unless I'm doing it myself and usually, my other 2 forwards are out of position anyway.
Thank you for this!! Seriously, I have been trying to get this point across forever! I have never seen the AI turn a puck properly (because they don't, they sprint directly at the puck) and I've never seen the weakside wing properly cover the middle of the ice like you should see in a 1-2-2! It's simple stuff, it should be easily debunkable if I'm making stuff up but I'm not. Easily seen during 5 seconds of gameplay, shouldn't need a video!
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