NHL24 Be a Pro AI
So I finally decided to start a BaP player in NHL23 (since I got the itch to watch some hockey) to supplement my normal online versus play and my lord... is the dev team aware of how horrible your AI...
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@PernellKarl027 I've tried your sliders for 23 as player-lock in season mode and it was ok gameplay-wise (if you like that "full-sim" feeling) but it did nothing for actual AI behavior. There is no way to edit AI behavior in this game like there is in NBA2k, for example. In 2k, you can edit player tendencies and it actually makes a difference in what the AI-controlled players will attempt to do on the court. IMO, NHL REALLY needs this.
I'll post a video/thread some time soon about my AI teammates' propensity for deking as soon as they cross the blue-line with the puck. It's so bad it's almost FUNNY. Suzuki/Caufield deke to the middle almost EVERY TIME on the rush.
As far as not calling for passes goes: I try to play that way but it's downright LESS realistic at times if you always refrain from calling for passes. I say this because the AI in this game won't make backhand passes up the boards when you're wide open as an outlet on the wing in your zone. You HAVE to call for it otherwise they'll just ignore you. Hell, I sometimes have to call for it in the offensive-zone as well otherwise one of my "top forwards" (LOL) will just turn straight into a body-check while carrying the puck. So bad.
I appreciate your response, though. I know you're passionate about the offline side of the game. That's the thing... I'm usually an ONLINE ONLY player but I DO like playing BaP to spice things up when I get frustrated with OVP.
I'll post a video/thread some time soon about my AI teammates' propensity for deking as soon as they cross the blue-line with the puck. It's so bad it's almost FUNNY. Suzuki/Caufield deke to the middle almost EVERY TIME on the rush.
As far as not calling for passes goes: I try to play that way but it's downright LESS realistic at times if you always refrain from calling for passes. I say this because the AI in this game won't make backhand passes up the boards when you're wide open as an outlet on the wing in your zone. You HAVE to call for it otherwise they'll just ignore you. Hell, I sometimes have to call for it in the offensive-zone as well otherwise one of my "top forwards" (LOL) will just turn straight into a body-check while carrying the puck. So bad.
I appreciate your response, though. I know you're passionate about the offline side of the game. That's the thing... I'm usually an ONLINE ONLY player but I DO like playing BaP to spice things up when I get frustrated with OVP.
Thanks for trying my sliders 👍😀
That being said, just one question for you, did you also played with the updated roster ?
The AI is very customizable when you edit players a certain way, trust me. We’ve changed so many things in this game that was downright frustrating…
In our extensive testing and stuff under the hood, nothing is left untouched.., For example this is a screenshot of things used to monitor new DMEN and Goalies edits…
At a different time in the testing, we looked and focused at our DMEN, where they actually made a bonehead play in our zone or anywhere on the ice. Should they have made a pass here ? Did they see the winger near the board for a breakout pass ? Did they have that deer caught in the headlights on that play ? Should they have made a shot here instead of passing and playing ping pong for nothing ?So yeah, so much stuff gameplay wise that can be adjusted in the finest details, but it takes lots of patience, lots of craziness also 😉😆
We will be delivering our FINAL update pretty soon and in my books it will be a game changer for years to come 😀
The fact that you say that so much can be fine tuned to play like a hockey game and proper AI except it takes lots of time and patience is absolutely pathetic for this company and developers. You have probably poured loads of hours into testing and tweaking and that says more about how bad the AI is than any kind of fix.
The AI is awful in this game, plain and simple. They should at the very least be able to play positional. I can't say how many times I've tried to play be a pro and the AI is absolutely lost on the ice. I've had 2 on 1s with an AI team mate and he just literally skates away from the play without going to a line change, he littlerally just skates away.
I've tried your sliders and I think you've done a great job on them and happy they work for people but there is far too many bobbled easy passes that should never bappen so I've given up on those. NhL 23 is a dead game anyways and we will see what 24 brings but if anyone is expecting the AI to play like hockey players then ypu will be fooling yourselves.
@rabid55wolverine wrote:The fact that you say that so much can be fine tuned to play like a hockey game and proper AI except it takes lots of time and patience is absolutely pathetic for this company and developers. You have probably poured loads of hours into testing and tweaking and that says more about how bad the AI is than any kind of fix.
The AI is awful in this game, plain and simple. They should at the very least be able to play positional. I can't say how many times I've tried to play be a pro and the AI is absolutely lost on the ice. I've had 2 on 1s with an AI team mate and he just literally skates away from the play without going to a line change, he littlerally just skates away.
I've tried your sliders and I think you've done a great job on them and happy they work for people but there is far too many bobbled easy passes that should never bappen so I've given up on those. NhL 23 is a dead game anyways and we will see what 24 brings but if anyone is expecting the AI to play like hockey players then ypu will be fooling yourselves.
Can’t speak for BAP, but I do play Position Lock 95% of the time and saying that the AI doesn’t play their positions properly is not accurate at all.. Most of the time, it’s the user that controls the said player that is out of HIS position, that’s what's gonna mess with the AI, cause it’s gonna try and cover for the player that left his spot on the ice… And I’ve never seen a player just skate away in all my time with the game.
Thanks for trying out my sliders 👍 That being said it’s a combo of many things including the very important roster… I see bobbled pass maybe at a 10% rate and most of the time it called for that like in real hockey. The player on the receiving end is sometimes not in an ideal spot and disposition to receive the puck cleanly and that plays a big part, like it should.
When you say that NHL23 is a dead game anyway, I couldn’t disagree more, cause for a bunch of us, it has never been more alive 😀
