NHL24 Be a Pro AI

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@PernellKarl027 wrote:

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@rabid55wolverine wrote:

 

The AI is at best mediocre and again the fact that you have to pour in hours and hiyrs of testing and tweaking says everything about how the AI plays in this game. Just because you can set sliders to make the game "like real life" to a minor extent means absolutely nothing to be honest and please don't think that is me taking anything away from what you do making sliders that work but EA is the one that needs to put hours and hours into the game to make the AI work properly and not do stupid things over and over.

Just the simple fact that you have to make the rosters different too and change ratings says a lot about where the game is at. 

As far as a dead game goes, yes you might play it a lot offline but the majority has vanished from this game and will be firing up the new one. There might be 10 to 15% still playing 23 but that makes this basically a dead game. 

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@rabid55wolverine 

First of all no game's AI is even remotely perfect out of the box. Every game from 2K to EA had flaws in them. But I saw something I really liked about 23 in general and that’s why I spent hours on end coming with these changes. Was it my job to do this ? Of course not. But I first started this journey when I saw that I could really change some AI behaviour when editing specific values for the players. Especially the DMEN… Then it became an obsession, cause the more I found stuff, the more the game played like I always dreamed a hockey game would play 😀

We always have to keep in mind that this game's DNA has always been on the Arcade side, so making it play closer to a SIM is no easy task indeed… I can’t even play the "default" Simulation sliders from EA for more than 5 minutes. That’s why the major edits on players needed to be done, to tame that wild arcade horse that’s under the hood….

I just played a game at LD locked and kept a very close eye on my AI buddy on the right end side, and I never saw what you see ? One time we switched position when he came out the bench first and he covered for me on my side. And after we switched during the play when it was the right time to do so. Like you will see often time in real life.

And I won’t be just saying words, I will shortly post an unedited period of me playing LD locked and we can analyze their play if you want ?

That is why NHL23 will become (has already become) my GO TO Hockey game for years and years down the road 😀

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Ypu obviously seem to get upset when I'm talking about the game and you miss my point each time so for that, I'm not really going to do anymore back and forth with you. You like 23, good for you, enjoy. I can't enjoy a garbage product that someone needs to work hours and hours to get "right"

As far as you not seeing what I'm seeing, again, good for you. I'm happy for you however this isn't just a me problem and has been reported with video numerous times. They don't care, never will and because of that, this series will never be better than the past games due to game being the same garbage AI year after year.

Now to the first thing said, NBAs AI is 100x better than EA. So is MLB the show. What is the commen thing in both of those games?  Neither is made by EA. I am not asking for perfect AI, im not even asking for great AI I am simply asking for AI that doesn't do stupid things on a daily basis every time you boot the game up. You're fine with that, great again I am happy for you. If you think you've solved the AI nonsense, again good for you. Happy to hear it. 

None of that changes anything to what I have said about the AI being garbage. They want to grow this game and series, AI needs to be better, plain and simple. Has to play like an actual NHL product without editing otherwise it's simply not what they should be doing. As far as arcade goes, I don't care about arcade if the game plays like actual hockey. 

One last time, the AI in this series is and has always been extremely sub par. Good on people for enjoying it but I guess I expect something playable when you pay close to 100 dollars. 

So that said, im done debating anything because you're just getting defensive over your sliders and edits and are missing the point. Enjoy 24!