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If the pass is coming at you, you are screwed. I am a defenseman in real life and have had to play a 2 on 1 more than I can count and I can count on 1 hand how many times the puck was forced through me. Passes behind or in front yes but rarely right through. In this game, no matter the position you're in, the puck will go through you even when you are facing the puck and will make it across for a shot.
They want goals in this game, plain and simple. Defense is nerfed so badly that any player can skate around doing pretty much whatever they want and they is little you can do about it. It's been this way for a while now and I don't see it changing any time soon. They want players to be able to do all the flashy and offensive stuff.
Yes, you can poke with DSS sometimes, it can work but does not work at the clip that it should be allowed to work. @KidShowtime1867 the clips that you showed where you held your stick out, 2 of them were so delayed on passing that it would have been simple to make that play, the other 2 you got them but the problem is, that's not how you play a 2 on 1 and the game should reward actually defense instead of glossing over it with a few clips saying you can do it. If you play hockey and are stupid enough to try that, more than likely, you'd miss because the player would be smart enough to make a proper play and you'd get burned and benched.
I'll never understand why people defend a mechanic that doesn't work like it should saying "yes you can just do this" yet it goes against what should be done. Still doesn't explain why pucks go through dmen who are in good position and nothing happens yet if it's an AI, it's picked off.
@rabid55wolverine wrote:If the pass is coming at you, you are screwed.
Not at all. If you're scrambling inputs at your player, sure. But you can easily position yourself to intercept 99% of the passes coming at you. Again, this goes back to the 'skating too fast' that I'm going to harp on until I die; people are skating too fast when defending too.Bro - the reason why they were 'delayed' in their passing is precisely because I had my stick out, forcing them to re-evaluate their options. That's the point I'm making when I say to use DSS more.
@rabid55wolverine wrote:@KidShowtime1867 the clips that you showed where you held your stick out, 2 of them were so delayed on passing that it would have been simple to make that play, the other 2 you got them
I forced this player to abort their cross-crease, sending them deep into a corner where they were obviously flustered and scrambling because they threw a 'spin-o-rama' input at their player.
@rabid55wolverine wrote:I'll never understand why people defend a mechanic that doesn't work like it should saying "yes you can just do this" yet it goes against what should be done. Still doesn't explain why pucks go through dmen who are in good position and nothing happens yet if it's an AI, it's picked off.
Show a video of a puck going "through" you in '24, and let us decide if that's what is actually happening.
- 2 years ago@KidShowtime1867 Problem with DSS is that if you have a bit of delay in the online game, you will probably think you touch the puck but not really, you just get burned cause the opponent will move along as if there is no stick there.
I want to be able to intercept passes and have the control of the puck by being in good position without manually poke which is only poking on the puck, not taking possession of the puck.
But yes, DSS is good for slowing down the attack. But in the case of cross crease pass with one defender in between, doesn't seem like it is the ideal way of defending.- KidShowtime18672 years agoHero
@jimmo52 wrote:
I want to be able to intercept passes and have the control of the puck by being in good position without manually poke which is only poking on the puck, not taking possession of the puck.You can. I'm still waiting for some video showing passes "going through" people in '24.
- 2 years ago@KidShowtime1867 https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxwVA83Z39WG_BnefYxKbAaW9SFBF6HcIw?si=IM1jk9Q9h2wUi2YQ
I believe this is an example.
- TheUnusedCrayon2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@rabid55wolverine wrote:If the pass is coming at you, you are screwed.
Not at all. If you're scrambling inputs at your player, sure. But you can easily position yourself to intercept 99% of the passes coming at you. Again, this goes back to the 'skating too fast' that I'm going to harp on until I die; people are skating too fast when defending too.
Bro - the reason why they were 'delayed' in their passing is precisely because I had my stick out, forcing them to re-evaluate their options. That's the point I'm making when I say to use DSS more.
@rabid55wolverine wrote:@KidShowtime1867 the clips that you showed where you held your stick out, 2 of them were so delayed on passing that it would have been simple to make that play, the other 2 you got them
I forced this player to abort their cross-crease, sending them deep into a corner where they were obviously flustered and scrambling because they threw a 'spin-o-rama' input at their player.
@rabid55wolverine wrote:I'll never understand why people defend a mechanic that doesn't work like it should saying "yes you can just do this" yet it goes against what should be done. Still doesn't explain why pucks go through dmen who are in good position and nothing happens yet if it's an AI, it's picked off.
Show a video of a puck going "through" you in '24, and let us decide if that's what is actually happening.
Here's the current state of interceptions with 86 defensive awareness and gold magnetic perk:
https://youtu.be/lrmiM8Qs5mA?si=HuSOCn4IbQQp7yl4
https://youtu.be/9yTjcDUGuyQ?si=4pN2TEB-yimn2Xuc
https://youtu.be/gYmSmmSYPlI?si=d-_IXkyML6OopdyA
https://youtu.be/txvV8s1_HI8?si=rB6tgusiJaCfdkyU
I'll gather more for you shortly.
- TheUnusedCrayon2 years agoSeasoned Ace
It either hits you and flubs off of you or it just goes right through. You have about a 30% chance of intercepting the puck unless you're literally right next to the player, then you have a 70% chance.
https://youtu.be/-8Sv7JVvDsc?si=ieInEoKdNPIYKM6P
- couture2fat2fly2 years agoSeasoned Veteran
@TheUnusedCrayonLMAO those are perfectly insane. Can't wait for these guys' explanation of how bad your defense is on those plays. HaVe YOu tRiEd tO sTicKLiFt iNsTeAd?
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