PSA: PS still has huge boost online. We pretty much lose or struggle to win all our games vs PS players. They are usually the worse players who force plays nonstop because they know they can get away with it. Of all the good people we play who know how to cycle and pass and not force plays, we only struggle against these losers who have 0 hockey IQ and play awful forcing the same plays all game long because they constantly get away with playing stupid. Dangle through whole team without losing the puck or never lose for more than .01 second without recovering it. Everything goes back to them they move twice as fast as us. Its just such a great experience EA. Fix it. Im not going to spend hours arguing with people and posting a million videos trying to prove it but you guys surely have QA testers who are paid to do this who can run some tests and then fix the issues, whatever they are. Also, why are there still speed glitches in the game? How can this game be taken seriously when you dont fix stuff like that, that is blatantly abused by people? The one hand speed glitch is the one I am talking about. So frustrating.

There are certain things I'd agree with not needing to provide video on but this isn't one of em. Teams have complained about some sort of PS advantage since the start of crossplay and haven't been able to back it up. You take a look into their stats and the vast majority of these teams have maybe a .500 average at best and try to force plays of their own. Please provide something so it can be broken down. Us players are the QA testers

@TTZ_Dipsy He's speaking about the fact that PS controllers can play around with deadzones and make it super sensitive so they move quicker than Xbox players since they don't have that option.

The only advantage I argue that ps players have over Xbox is the change view button. On PS, which I played from 20-23, I had the big touchpad and could rapidly switch view using my right thumb while still controlling my player with the left. On Xbox the change view is mapped to the tiny button next to the left thumb stuck, and this slight delay in loss of control makes a difference. Most Xbox players I've played with don't even know about or use the change view and have argued with me that this not a factor. I disagree.

@kezz123 wrote:PSA: PS still has huge boost online. We pretty much lose or struggle to win all our games vs PS players. They are usually the worse players who force plays nonstop because they know they can get away with it. Of all the good people we play who know how to cycle and pass and not force plays, we only struggle against these losers who have 0 hockey IQ and play awful forcing the same plays all game long because they constantly get away with playing stupid. Dangle through whole team without losing the puck or never lose for more than .01 second without recovering it. Everything goes back to them they move twice as fast as us. Its just such a great experience EA. Fix it. Im not going to spend hours arguing with people and posting a million videos trying to prove it but you guys surely have QA testers who are paid to do this who can run some tests and then fix the issues, whatever they are. Also, why are there still speed glitches in the game? How can this game be taken seriously when you dont fix stuff like that, that is blatantly abused by people? The one hand speed glitch is the one I am talking about. So frustrating. While it's possible there's some speed glitch I'm not aware of, none of this sounds like a console to console difference. Everything you describe in the first paragraph happens regardless of console.Offensive players always have an advantage in maintaining/recovering control of the puck. Forced plays/passes are often attempted and rewarded, the players are making those decisions, not the console. Moving "twice as fast as you" depends on a number of factors including player builds, stamina, reaction time, game situation, etc. There are issues with the game, I'm not saying these things are "right", only that they aren't a result of different consoles.There are also some glitches in the game which should be fixed, but a one-handed speed glitch isn't one I'm aware of. You may simply be seeing a player who is legitimately faster than you that is using a custom skating stride. (Some of the more popular strides have one-handed animations.) The actual speed boost can be coming from acceleration, hustle, or x-factors. You can describe gameplay issues without video, as those are things we've likely all experienced, but if you're suggesting something is a glitch it needs to be shown to eliminate the possibility that it is "working as intended" and being misinterpreted through experience.

@Beirzinthefridge wrote: The only advantage I argue that ps players have over Xbox is the change view button. On PS, which I played from 20-23, I had the big touchpad and could rapidly switch view using my right thumb while still controlling my player with the left. On Xbox the change view is mapped to the tiny button next to the left thumb stuck, and this slight delay in loss of control makes a difference. Most Xbox players I've played with don't even know about or use the change view and have argued with me that this not a factor. I disagree. You can also hold down that button for a couple seconds to get a hybrid view that keeps your player and the puck on screen. I use the Zone camera and never have to change views. I definitely remember those days that I did though. Surprised that button didn't wear out.

Playstation still has huge advantage over Xbox.

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TTZ_Dipsy
Legend
2 years ago
There are certain things I'd agree with not needing to provide video on but this isn't one of em. Teams have complained about some sort of PS advantage since the start of crossplay and haven't been able to back it up.

You take a look into their stats and the vast majority of these teams have maybe a .500 average at best and try to force plays of their own. Please provide something so it can be broken down. Us players are the QA testers
phomi99
Seasoned Veteran
2 years ago
@TTZ_Dipsy He's speaking about the fact that PS controllers can play around with deadzones and make it super sensitive so they move quicker than Xbox players since they don't have that option.
Beirzinthefridge
Seasoned Traveler
2 years ago
The only advantage I argue that ps players have over Xbox is the change view button. On PS, which I played from 20-23, I had the big touchpad and could rapidly switch view using my right thumb while still controlling my player with the left. On Xbox the change view is mapped to the tiny button next to the left thumb stuck, and this slight delay in loss of control makes a difference. Most Xbox players I've played with don't even know about or use the change view and have argued with me that this not a factor. I disagree.
RicochetII
2 years ago
@kezz123 wrote:
PSA:
PS still has huge boost online.
We pretty much lose or struggle to win all our games vs PS players. They are usually the worse players who force plays nonstop because they know they can get away with it. Of all the good people we play who know how to cycle and pass and not force plays, we only struggle against these losers who have 0 hockey IQ and play awful forcing the same plays all game long because they constantly get away with playing stupid. Dangle through whole team without losing the puck or never lose for more than .01 second without recovering it. Everything goes back to them they move twice as fast as us. Its just such a great experience EA.

Fix it. Im not going to spend hours arguing with people and posting a million videos trying to prove it but you guys surely have QA testers who are paid to do this who can run some tests and then fix the issues, whatever they are.
Also, why are there still speed glitches in the game? How can this game be taken seriously when you dont fix stuff like that, that is blatantly abused by people? The one hand speed glitch is the one I am talking about. So frustrating.
While it's possible there's some speed glitch I'm not aware of, none of this sounds like a console to console difference.
Everything you describe in the first paragraph happens regardless of console.
Offensive players always have an advantage in maintaining/recovering control of the puck.
Forced plays/passes are often attempted and rewarded, the players are making those decisions, not the console.
Moving "twice as fast as you" depends on a number of factors including player builds, stamina, reaction time, game situation, etc.
There are issues with the game, I'm not saying these things are "right", only that they aren't a result of different consoles.
There are also some glitches in the game which should be fixed, but a one-handed speed glitch isn't one I'm aware of.
You may simply be seeing a player who is legitimately faster than you that is using a custom skating stride. (Some of the more popular strides have one-handed animations.)
The actual speed boost can be coming from acceleration, hustle, or x-factors.
You can describe gameplay issues without video, as those are things we've likely all experienced, but if you're suggesting something is a glitch it needs to be shown to eliminate the possibility that it is "working as intended" and being misinterpreted through experience.
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
@Beirzinthefridge wrote:

The only advantage I argue that ps players have over Xbox is the change view button. On PS, which I played from 20-23, I had the big touchpad and could rapidly switch view using my right thumb while still controlling my player with the left. On Xbox the change view is mapped to the tiny button next to the left thumb stuck, and this slight delay in loss of control makes a difference. Most Xbox players I've played with don't even know about or use the change view and have argued with me that this not a factor. I disagree.

You can also hold down that button for a couple seconds to get a hybrid view that keeps your player and the puck on screen. I use the Zone camera and never have to change views. I definitely remember those days that I did though. Surprised that button didn't wear out.
kezz123
Rising Veteran
2 years ago
@TTZ_Dipsy Impossible to prove. You just "feel it" during the game.
I just ended another game...its literally every game we lose its PS teams.

They move so unnaturally, they are lightling fast. Yesterday a guy was rushing one side of the ice checking us in the back and the pass would go to another one of us across the ice and the PS guy who just checked would catch up with us and hit that player in the back and make us lose the puck non stop all game.

You try to hit them but its impossible because they move and pivot so unrealistically fast.

They play huge builds and have the speed of small builds. One guy was playing the moonlight or whatever premade big build that has something like 88 speed yet was more agile and fast than our guys with 94-95 speed.

I mean do you not play the game?
kezz123
Rising Veteran
2 years ago
@phomi99 That is one of the reasons I suspect which makes them move so weird compared to xbox player...

Im so jealous seeing the speed with which they pivot and skate compared to xbox players. its mental.

But its also unfun and unfair.

Keep in mind I play 3s most of the time and so the problem is vastly amplified because they have the room to abuse it way more than in 6s.
TTZ_Dipsy
Legend
2 years ago
@kezz123

I mean, I dunno what to tell you mate; they can't really fix anything based on a feel (they don't seem to have the resources to really fix anything anyway).

The special builds completely brake part of the game and I believe at least one of them has Xfactors that their build normally doesn't allow. Moonlight or Bones or whoever might explain the catchup speed.

I don't think speed really does anything after 90 - At the very least its diminishing returns.

I played once in January but essentially quit back in early December - honestly no point in continuing since the devs refuse to make QoL changes.

I'm a PS5 owner forced to play the PS4 version because my buddy refuses to upgrade - He recently moved to Toronto so our games will be too laggy anyway.

I wish you the best mate but I honestly don't know how to help
kezz123
Rising Veteran
2 years ago
@TTZ_Dipsy Fair enough. I still will use my solemn right to complain and create awareness. Its the only way to hopefully get things fixed. I mean, like you said, they dont seem to have any resources to fix much anyways...this game has so many bugs its crazy. The speed glitch is independant from PS and Xbox by the way, its the way you place your stick while you hustle so you end up hustling one handed and get an extra speed boost. My tm8 does it all the time and we score a ton on breakaways because of it...its stupid and i refuse to learn it because then it will be hard to not abuse but still, thats a seperate thing and is from last year yet still unfixed. Its so annoying. I really wish another company made the game.
phomi99
Seasoned Veteran
2 years ago
@kezz123 wrote:
@phomi99That is one of the reasons I suspect which makes them move so weird compared to xbox player...

Im so jealous seeing the speed with which they pivot and skate compared to xbox players. its mental.

But its also unfun and unfair.

Keep in mind I play 3s most of the time and so the problem is vastly amplified because they have the room to abuse it way more than in 6s.

I'm certain it's the only reason. I bought a good Xbox controller on Amazon where I can customize the settings and set my deadzones to Raw mode and min and max. I call it being "wiggly" . I'm noticeably faster to the puck than my opponent. Only downside is with sensitive sticks is you miss shots and lining up hits more than if I were to shrink the deadzones. I have to play around with it and find a sweet spot.
It also takes some getting used to because you gotta react quicker now.
Found out about it first on FIFA. PS players abused the sensitivity customization there too.