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MarvnZindler's avatar
MarvnZindler
New Ace
2 years ago

Re: Dumping the puck

The comment about puck dumps being a 'get out of jail free card' is so amusing to me. Like, my man, have you watched a hockey game? That's exactly what the puck dump is for - to alleviate pressure! You don't suppose NHLers are just high flipping the puck to see if they can hit the jumbotron, do you?

The pressure system isn't a terrible idea in theory, but the execution is super flawed. Like, yes, players get exhausted from defending for extended periods in real life, but it doesn't turn the attacking team into superheroes. The ability to keep the puck and generate good chances in real hockey doesn't come from a stat boost (obviously), it comes from time and space created by defenders being tired.

You need to balance out the pressure system. Having defenders barely able to move + a boost in stats for the attacking team + a reduction in stats for the defending team + not being able to flip the puck out is just ridiculously weighted in favor of the offense.

8 Replies

  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    2 years ago

    @SummerOfDekes 

    Yes. I fully understand dumping the puck alleviates pressure. However, if dumps worked the way they did previously, you could almost instantly kill full pressure. It would pretty much make that system useless. I absolutely understand the frustration though and I hope it changes because I completely agree dumps are too weak. While I typically don't have a problem clearing, it's very annoying. I used to use dumps more frequently on breakouts and can't do that now. It was nice for hitting that forward across the ice breaking out when I had the puck deep in my own zone in a corner. Regardless, the weak dumps are just really unrealistic, but I also get the point of having them for the reason I previously mentioned.

  • MarvnZindler's avatar
    MarvnZindler
    New Ace
    2 years ago
    @EA_Aljo

    It wouldn't instantly negate the pressure at all. I routinely play in games where a team is able to get a cleared puck from their end of neutral ice and skate it back into the offensive zone without losing full pressure. And even if they DID lose full pressure, the defending team still doesn't have any energy at that point, so the attacking team can just skate back into the zone, take a few weak shots on net, retrieve the puck from exhausted defenders who still can barely skate, and voila! Full pressure again!

    If you have to intentionally break a simple, realistic mechanic to make your system work, maybe the system is badly designed.

    But, what do I know.
  • PernellKarl027's avatar
    PernellKarl027
    2 years ago
    @EA_Aljo wrote:

    @SummerOfDekes 

    Yes. I fully understand dumping the puck alleviates pressure. However, if dumps worked the way they did previously, you could almost instantly kill full pressure. It would pretty much make that system useless. I absolutely understand the frustration though and I hope it changes because I completely agree dumps are too weak. While I typically don't have a problem clearing, it's very annoying. I used to use dumps more frequently on breakouts and can't do that now. It was nice for hitting that forward across the ice breaking out when I had the puck deep in my own zone in a corner. Regardless, the weak dumps are just really unrealistic, but I also get the point of having them for the reason I previously mentioned.

    So they basically NERF a real hockey mechanic, so that it doesn’t affect their new and shiny gimmick…. Yikes ! It’s even worse than what I originally thought…

    Defensive tools, you have no business in a hockey game, now go sit in a corner 😒

  • Caliboy6262_714's avatar
    Caliboy6262_714
    Rising Hotshot
    2 years ago

    Honestly, I’m not even using dump pick this year. I’m having great success by just getting space, and slap shorting the puck to the other side of the rink on penalty kill. Unfortunately at 5 on 5 this would be icing but I have no problem clearing the zone at 5 on 5 so I can’t speak on this 

  • Treatmentworke66's avatar
    Treatmentworke66
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @PernellKarl027 it's amazing isn't it's like They're trying to decide the out come of a game by making sure they're new mechanic actually works
  • tinybabyrobot's avatar
    tinybabyrobot
    New Traveler
    2 years ago
    @EA_Aljo The beef remains with CPUs dumping the puck with spaghetti arms. Stop ignoring that. Log the issue properly, so that the devs can fix it properly.
  • tinybabyrobot's avatar
    tinybabyrobot
    New Traveler
    2 years ago

    Today i had a cpu player dump the puck so short that he literally received the dump as it came down. Hahaha. It reminded me of the WWE Mr Perfect video where he throws the ball and catches it in the endzone. So realistic. 

  • Treatmentworke66's avatar
    Treatmentworke66
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    It needs to go back to how it used to be ,almost everyone plays full attack knowing that there is almost zero consequences that will get they'll caught being over aggressive  not to mention its a defensive tool you know like in real hockey, which this game is supposed to represent 

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