Skating Speed (EASHL)
Hi, Can I get some sort of confirmation on what impacts skating speed? I have a teammate who is being outpaced to the puck even though he is 95/95 and in full sprint. So my questions are 1: Does...
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@EA_Aljo
I only posted the video because you said "The best way to understand how your friend is always being outpaced is to see video of it.". Note though: I did not say my teammate is "always" being outpaced. Just in this specific situation and in general it happened a couple times throughout this game, which prompted my broader question.
Now, as I said in the first post, my teammate is 95/95 but clearly it's not possible to know his fatigue levels here or the stats of the other player. But, I was asked for a video, so I provided one 🙂 My personal opinion is that it isn't super productive to get overly focused on it - I'm curious in general whether skating styles / height matter.
I tried out the skating style from the video last night and this may be a placebo effect but I did have puck pick ups that I wasn't expecting to get. Not proof of anything but I'm curious what the "official" answer is.
I only posted the video because you said "The best way to understand how your friend is always being outpaced is to see video of it.". Note though: I did not say my teammate is "always" being outpaced. Just in this specific situation and in general it happened a couple times throughout this game, which prompted my broader question.
Now, as I said in the first post, my teammate is 95/95 but clearly it's not possible to know his fatigue levels here or the stats of the other player. But, I was asked for a video, so I provided one 🙂 My personal opinion is that it isn't super productive to get overly focused on it - I'm curious in general whether skating styles / height matter.
I tried out the skating style from the video last night and this may be a placebo effect but I did have puck pick ups that I wasn't expecting to get. Not proof of anything but I'm curious what the "official" answer is.
There's definitely something happening in the OP's clip.
When the players enter the neutral zone, the separation between them is a couple of strides:
It seems that the instant the white player crosses the blue line, the separation doubles
Of course, this could just be a fatigue thing (green hustled their energy down to yellow/red/zero) but the timing of the separation (immediately after entering the O-Zone) would easily lead one to believe there's something else at work.
If you look at more than just the clip, in the play before, the green player is seen hustling at full speed up the ice where as the other player in white (orange icon) has a few moments where he can be seen not in a hustle animation. You can also see his stamina in the green at one point showing that he is above that threshold. This in combination with the play after leads me to believe that the green player is drained on stamina while the other player in white has at least some left in the tank. When any player reaches either 75% or 66% stamina (can't remember which but I think its yellow bar), their max speed starts to diminish. At what rate I am unsure of and there is, to my knowledge, no place where this information is mentioned.
- EA_Aljo
Community Manager
Apologies for the late response. I have confirmed that skating styles make no difference with speed. The videos that were posted are speculation and are not factual. Also, regardless of body size/weight, speed is the same. Meaning, 90 speed is the same regardless of size and weight.
- @EA_Aljo Thank you SO SO much. This is a great reference - I know how videos can speculate and confuse their speculation as fact. 🙂
Do you know if they impact puck pickups? Or the entire thing is purely visual? @KidShowtime1867I'd be lying if I didn't admit that, for YEARS with this franchise, it seemed like defensive players got somewhat of a speed boost in their zone. I've had many experiences with high-speed forwards being caught from behind after having what looked like a breakaway. 1v1 modes, in particular.
It could just be in my head, though. I've never tested it.- EA_Aljo
@NeonSkyline21 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867I'd be lying if I didn't admit that, for YEARS with this franchise, it seemed like defensive players got somewhat of a speed boost in their zone. I've had many experiences with high-speed forwards being caught from behind after having what looked like a breakaway. 1v1 modes, in particular.
It could just be in my head, though. I've never tested it.Defenders don't get a speed boost in either zone.
A percieved speed boost could be because of a few reasons.
1. In my experience, forwards are CONSTANTLY hustling. They treat every chance at getting the puck like they're about to score the OT Game 7 winner in the Cup Final. On the flip side, defenders almost never need to hustle unless we're chasing down a forward on a breakaway.
2. Stickhandling and shielding the puck at all slows you down tremendously. If a forward started to deke around on a breakaway, he'd probably get caught by the defender at some point.
3. Up until a patch this year, I believe you skated faster without the puck. I could be incorrect, though.
@SummerOfDekes wrote:A percieved speed boost could be because of a few reasons.
1. In my experience, forwards are CONSTANTLY hustling. They treat every chance at getting the puck like they're about to score the OT Game 7 winner in the Cup Final. On the flip side, defenders almost never need to hustle unless we're chasing down a forward on a breakaway.
2. Stickhandling and shielding the puck at all slows you down tremendously. If a forward started to deke around on a breakaway, he'd probably get caught by the defender at some point.
3. Up until a patch this year, I believe you skated faster without the puck. I could be incorrect, though.
4. Generally speaking, defenseman have higher endurance than forwards of comparable quality.
@NeonSkyline21@SummerOfDekesNail on the head for 1 and 2. Lack of energy means your max speed stat takes a hit so a dman who is always in the green will likely catch up to a winger in yellow or red even. Also regarding 3. You will always skate faster without the puck. There is a 3% skater speed penalty when skating with puck. Wheels xfactor will halve or remove this penalty entirely.
I find that statement odd coming from you - after all it was you who said -“Game developers for EA NHL are former players on the staff- also you asked me if - “I could tie my own skates and tape my own blade?”
This and all else you say will live on as true wisdom in the gaming world ..
