the game is unplayable. The game is all about speed and passing around the goalkeeper is the biggest waste. there is no point in playing the same game over and over again. Edit: Modified the subject to better reflect the content of the post. -CM

@HurricaneFza wrote:https://www.xbox.com/play/media/v5D5Mx79KyNOH Hedman, 88 overall, 95 defensive awareness and silver quick pick activated.You took control of Hedman and rather than stick to the incoming threat, you decide to chase the puck carrier who is behind the net:You then change your mind, mid journey, and finally decide to go after the threatThe transition from going after the puck carrier and then deciding to go after the threatening player is what caused you not to obtain the puckYou should've acknowledged the incoming threat earlier and stuck with him in order to disrupt the chance

@EA_Aljo wrote:@Fadetoblack021 So, the issue isn't cross-crease goals, but you think redirecting the puck and going top-shelf by stretching your stick out is unrealistic? I guess we can agree to disagree again. I'm not seeing a lack of realism with this. Sure, they aren't happening every day, but they aren't exactly unrealistic.You don't see anything unrealistic because you're able to find one clip a year where it happens in the NHL? This is why it's so difficult to communicate, send in clips and give feedback because you guys think the most outrageous plays are normal and you don't even know how wrong they are.

@EA_Aljo and yet we have people complain about poke checks and how awful they are compared to real life..If something happens a few times within 1,000 NHL games and its done to score goals.. EA will ensure this is a fairly easy thing to do in the game.If this is something that even happens SEVERAL times in EVERY NHL game and it helps the defense prevent goals.. we will need to nerf its effectiveness and put restrictions on it, and increase the chance of penalty, AND slow the defenseman down so he is unable to make multiple attempts to stop the play.EA games! If it's in the game, RNG will decide if it will be in YOUR game.

Sadly, ive come to the conclusion that despite being the game that had the most potential in years, its the worse game since nhl 15. I never had so little fun. I never felt the game was so unrealistic and nothing makes sense from pokes, to lift sticks, to checks, to dekes, to how players magnet (or not) the puck. No consistency except the inconsistency.

@kezz123 wrote:Sadly, ive come to the conclusion that despite being the game that had the most potential in years, its the worse game since nhl 15. I never had so little fun. I never felt the game was so unrealistic and nothing makes sense from pokes, to lift sticks, to checks, to dekes, to how players magnet (or not) the puck. No consistency except the inconsistency. The game consistently holds you accountable, combined with the skill of the players online - the accountability is through the roof and some people hate that. Simple mistakes cost you. I think there's a very vocal minority of people who want the game to make up for their mistakes, but only when they do it and not their opponent. There are also people that want things simplified and although I can see their point - the oversimplification of gameplay would be a regression. This is why I'm so quick to call people out for mistakes when they insist something needs to be 'fixed'. Before the typical crew chimes in to claim I think the game is perfect, I don't. Offline is unimaginative. quality of life improvements have been lacking year over year. It's been 10 years since the last time EA put out a hockey game where we could run a simple 32-team league (or GM Connected) with our friends and instead they've tried to force everyone to their monetization platform *cough* HUT. The Pressure System, although a valiant attempt at introducing (forcing) a new META, is one of the most frustrating things I've seen added to the game in years - at least since The Emotion Effect, The Breakaway Cam and The Momentum Meter. It makes zero sense to me that my forward is suddenly unable to accelerate because the opposing team made a few successive passes and got a shot on net. But maybe that's just me. WoC matchmaking times are abysmal. Even loading into WoC is a painful process and when you come from other massive multiplayer games like PuBG, CoD, etc - and you see how fluid their menus and matchmaking are... it makes the NHL 24 menus feel so cumbersome. Combined with the stale presentation elements and the continued FortNite-ification of the overall style of the U.I., emotes, etc - The game is taking certain turns into design directions that are questionable. However, it's the best core gameplay they've put out in years. Changes to hitting have been great, although some are still finding it hard to break old habits and insist it's 'broken'. One-button dekes also expanded the use of those maneuvers to users who typically couldn't grasp how to do them. This is one point of 'regression' that I agree with because it entices users to take more risks which opens the game up more. If someone wants to keep trying the michigan.. great.. being that predictable only makes defending easier. This will be wildly unpopular but I still think the A.I. is even in a good state. Many have failed to grasp just how much the A.i. is reacting to the inputs from the human. I've seen countless clips here, on Reddit etc where people claim the A.I. is at fault for any given scenario. In some cases, yes - bugs happen and the a.i. can glitch out - but that's rare. More often than not, a complaint about A.I. is due to a player pulling other players out of position, spamming poke check (yes, spamming poke check WILL have an effect on your A.I. and if you don't know this, then you're completely misunderstanding how the ai works) and otherwise playing in such a frantic way that the a.i. gets stuck with queued up instructions and makes them do seemingly dumb things. But sometimes they also do some really good things that go completely unnoticed. Not to mention the support we get here on these forums. When someone posts a clip of a REAL issue here, Aljo is all over it and ensuring people know it's being passed on to the team. This doesn't guarantee a fix, but it puts the real issues and real-world examples of those issues directly into the hands of people who need to see it, rather than just posting it on space karen's platform trying to generate "agreement" from other butthurt gamers and bots. I'd like to see people be more constructive here rather than simply arguing that the game is garbage when they're on the bad outcome of a bounce and swimming in a sea of denial when they're told their clip might actually demonstrate a lack of skill versus a broken game.

Speed and passing around the goalkeeper feedback

56 Replies

EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
Hi there, @Riditelvesmiru

Can you get some video showing how the game is unplayable? There's some instructions for capturing video here if you need it.
ThoorWoolf
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo Hello, you hear this from us all the time. In Rivals mode, there is no other style of play than arriving in the attacking zone and passing a cross to the always free player standing at the goal. Or make an arc at the throw-in circle and swing to score a goal. Try playing a Rivals match yourself and see for yourself.
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
@ThoorWoolf

I play Rivals matches. I also know these goals can be defended. Again, it would be good if you posted video so the community could give you some advice for defending these shots better as they're really nothing new. People have commonly scored with cross-crease and far side shots for years.
ThoorWoolf
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo So you could send us some video for an idea or a screenshot. When we also send videos and screenshots. And I ask why the developers do not prevent these long-standing simple goals?
KidShowtime1867
Hero
2 years ago
@ThoorWoolf wrote:
@EA_AljoSo you could send us some video for an idea or a screenshot. When we also send videos and screenshots. And I ask why the developers do not prevent these long-standing simple goals?
It's up to you to defend simple goals.
Fadetoblack021
Rising Vanguard
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@ThoorWoolf
I play Rivals matches. I also know these goals can be defended. Again, it would be good if you posted video so the community could give you some advice for defending these shots better as they're really nothing new. People have commonly scored with cross-crease and far side shots for years.
There's good cross-crease goals and bad. I agree that passes to the forehand in a ready position have a great chance to go top shelf consistently but the one-timers where it's someone leaning ahead with his stick outstretched from one hand and they direct that top shelf the majority of the time that are unrealistic. It's about realism more than anything for that I think.
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
@Fadetoblack021

So, the issue isn't cross-crease goals, but you think redirecting the puck and going top-shelf by stretching your stick out is unrealistic? I guess we can agree to disagree again. I'm not seeing a lack of realism with this. Sure, they aren't happening every day, but they aren't exactly unrealistic.
Fadetoblack021
Rising Vanguard
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@Fadetoblack021
So, the issue isn't cross-crease goals, but you think redirecting the puck and going top-shelf by stretching your stick out is unrealistic? I guess we can agree to disagree again. I'm not seeing a lack of realism with this. Sure, they aren't happening every day, but they aren't exactly unrealistic.
You don't see anything unrealistic because you're able to find one clip a year where it happens in the NHL? This is why it's so difficult to communicate, send in clips and give feedback because you guys think the most outrageous plays are normal and you don't even know how wrong they are.
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
@Fadetoblack021

The average person is also playing a far higher amount of games than there are in a regular NHL season. It's also possible you're seeing more shots. People also attempt the same shots over and over and over again. If all you do are cross-crease attempts, this is more likely. This particular shot is really uncommon for me, for example. Regardless, it's a realistic way to score.
Riditelvesmiru
New Vanguard
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo but there are too many crossing passes across the goal area in the game, the same run at the goalkeeper. There are players who do nothing but walk through the goal area and try to make the game so disgusting that the player leaves the match or the game altogether. If cross passes weren't so strong, people wouldn't play it so much, it is. This is also why the community is so small. It's here year in and year out and it's hard to get the game going if there's this crap out of the game! The game is also terribly biased, when someone who tries to create loses to someone who only knows how to abuse broken parts of the game (cruising passes through the goal area. maybe the goalkeeper would let it go once after a match, but not 2x in a row.