You shouldn't need 92 poking and gold stick em up to consistently poke the puck.

It's so bad and so slow. I get that you want offense but when offense can literally skate through you because you poke and the extension of the puck is so slow that you can't even pick the puck up because you have to finish your animation it's absolute lunacy.

Balance in this game needs some effort put in. 

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@KidShowtime1867 wrote:

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@Limp_KidzKit wrote:

Am I crazy here or did theoffensive player make a super good play that I'm not seeing?

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watch the clip again. Tell us which player's skates stop moving while the puck moves forward. There's your answer. 

Some of you want the poke check to be an instant possession button, while others are clamouring for more loose pucks. You can see in this clip that the puck is loose and is reacting to the sticks touching it. Do you all want this to be an instant possession by the defender? 

Regardless of your real world experience level, a poke check (thrusting your top-hand forward in an attempt to use your stick to dislodge a puck) will result in some slowdown/reduction in acceleration/speed. 

In that scenario, the puck was successfully poked. However, because the trajectory of the puck matched the trajectory of the puck carrier (who was still skating) and the subsequent bounces were fortuitous for the puck carrier, they retained possession. 

This clip demonstrates where a shove is ideal. The player models are literally interacting with each other, and rather than play the body, the player chose to use a poke check. Wrong move. Paid the price. Nothing wrong in that clip. 

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I guess you need to teach Charlie McAvoy how to play defense?  Lots of poke spamming there and no shoving until the puck is knocked loose!  

No one is asking for an instant possession change.  The puck should have been knocked loose and gone in the direction of the corner, to result in a loss of possession, 50/50 puck, or at the very least result in the offensive player being in a less advantageous position like this:

And this is all beside the fact that the \"fortuitous\" bounce is unbelievably unlikely, if not physically impossible.  Also, you have no problem with poke checking losing tons of speed but not loss of speed pick the puck back up on an awkward backhand angle at full speed.

This game was designed to be as easy as possible for people to score goals because people complained they couldn't just skate into the offensive zone and to the net completely untouched.

This game was designed to be as easy as possible for people to score goals because people complained they couldn't just skate into the offensive zone and to the net completely untouched.

As long as you keep the defenseman in the correct position and are not spamming the button, you should have success with poke checks.  There are times were I time it incorrectly and the winger is able to go right around me because of my mistake. I have auto back skate off so this also helps me turn my players around manually when needed.  The AI on superstar is also more difficult this year than last year in my opinion. But timing and not spamming the poke check works really well this year.

As long as you keep the defenseman in the correct position and are not spamming the button, you should have success with poke checks.  There are times were I time it incorrectly and the winger is able to go right around me because of my mistake. I have auto back skate off so this also helps me turn my players around manually when needed.  The AI on superstar is also more difficult this year than last year in my opinion. But timing and not spamming the poke check works really well this year.

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@20Portugal04 wrote:

As long as you keep the defenseman in the correct position and are not spamming the button, you should have success with poke checks.  There are times were I time it incorrectly and the winger is able to go right around me because of my mistake. I have auto back skate off so this also helps me turn my players around manually when needed.  The AI on superstar is also more difficult this year than last year in my opinion. But timing and not spamming the poke check works really well this year.

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You can be backed up, not pedalling, they skate right into you, you throw the poke out and all it does is aim at stick despite no deking animation.

I'm guessing we are playing on different pings, because if I have 92 poke checking and gold stick em up, pokechecking is 100% fine but the moment I have 88 pokecheck and silver stick em up, you have a 25% chance at connecting with the puck despite being in great position and the offense not protecting it at all. 

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@20Portugal04 wrote:

As long as you keep the defenseman in the correct position and are not spamming the button, you should have success with poke checks.  There are times were I time it incorrectly and the winger is able to go right around me because of my mistake. I have auto back skate off so this also helps me turn my players around manually when needed.  The AI on superstar is also more difficult this year than last year in my opinion. But timing and not spamming the poke check works really well this year.

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You can be backed up, not pedalling, they skate right into you, you throw the poke out and all it does is aim at stick despite no deking animation.

I'm guessing we are playing on different pings, because if I have 92 poke checking and gold stick em up, pokechecking is 100% fine but the moment I have 88 pokecheck and silver stick em up, you have a 25% chance at connecting with the puck despite being in great position and the offense not protecting it at all. 

https://youtu.be/vPoQmcXe130?si=fSMChDkMzwnC4pwu

https://youtu.be/yqN8cI4gFlk?si=WmmVDoqe2SoNbObV

https://youtu.be/SaUN2WaAH_s?si=a3Vgu_4FR6sbYKsG

https://youtu.be/z4WNRd1GdW0?si=yKsxwVRmv9yPejcL

(This one is about as bad as it gets)

This happens dozens of times a game. In fact this is all from the same game. 

90 pokecheck.

The puck is right there, the stick is right there. Targets stick or whatever else and not puck, or the puck physics just don't work in general. 

https://youtu.be/vPoQmcXe130?si=fSMChDkMzwnC4pwu

https://youtu.be/yqN8cI4gFlk?si=WmmVDoqe2SoNbObV

https://youtu.be/SaUN2WaAH_s?si=a3Vgu_4FR6sbYKsG

https://youtu.be/z4WNRd1GdW0?si=yKsxwVRmv9yPejcL

(This one is about as bad as it gets)

This happens dozens of times a game. In fact this is all from the same game. 

90 pokecheck.

The puck is right there, the stick is right there. Targets stick or whatever else and not puck, or the puck physics just don't work in general. 

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@KlariskraysNHL wrote:
@TheUnusedCrayonIn the 1st video \"null\" you are reaching too far to make it a strong contact on the puck so the player picks it back up more easy. The way I look at it is you have to skate at the person while in the poke animation and you reach max length before you make contact with the puck then you went too soon.

In the 2nd video you should have went for the sticklift on the player when you got the inside but it looks like once again you poke too soon and just hold it out there hoping for a puck off the player. It's not effective in this game and you don't see players just skating holding their stick out to dislodge a puck in these situations.

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And where's the same onus on the offensive player who regains control and advantage in these situations?

And it's laughable you're suggesting stick lifting. Sounds insincere considering it's still a penalty button and you roll the dice on those instances as I've already accrued enough penalties testing out the stick lift in proper situations like those.

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@TheUnusedCrayon wrote:

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@KlariskraysNHL wrote:
@TheUnusedCrayonIn the 1st video \"null\" you are reaching too far to make it a strong contact on the puck so the player picks it back up more easy. The way I look at it is you have to skate at the person while in the poke animation and you reach max length before you make contact with the puck then you went too soon.

In the 2nd video you should have went for the sticklift on the player when you got the inside but it looks like once again you poke too soon and just hold it out there hoping for a puck off the player. It's not effective in this game and you don't see players just skating holding their stick out to dislodge a puck in these situations.

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And where's the same onus on the offensive player who regains control and advantage in these situations?

And it's laughable you're suggesting stick lifting. Sounds insincere considering it's still a penalty button and you roll the dice on those instances as I've already accrued enough penalties testing out the stick lift in proper situations like those.

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If stick lifting is still a \"penalty button\" for you, you're using it wrong. 

Why do you have to be so exactly perfect on poke check and even when you are it doesn’t work half the time and it’s slow.. but a guy on offense can skate into traffic and lose the puck 3 times and get it back? 

Why are we not punishing the offense for making bad decisions too? In the same way we punish defense?