https://youtube.com/watch?v=j0HMCxc2H08&feature=shared
Why is my opponent not punished for playing poor defense? You can see their stick go right into Draisaitl's skate that would normally lead to a tripping call if he was carrying the puck.
This has been an issue forever and I have proof on video.
Why is it that you can get interference penalties but not tripping interference penalties? Makes no sense.
This is one of the more "video game" changes I don't mind having in this. If every stick could trip someone in the game you would have 100 trips a game. Would just be a little too much so they only matter if you are poking the puck carrier. I am all for a simulation style skill based game, but this I don't mind being in the game (or rather not in the game).
@hiperay wrote:This is one of the more "video game" changes I don't mind having in this. If every stick could trip someone in the game you would have 100 trips a game. Would just be a little too much so they only matter if you are poking the puck carrier. I am all for a simulation style skill based game, but this I don't mind being in the game (or rather not in the game).
Well... that's the point really. If you're controlling a player and poke check a player without the puck. It is a penalty. Currently this game is way too arcade like.
I'm sure you would have a different opinion if your opponent poke checks through your team mate's skates to get the puck off you. It happens all the time.
I get it's a video game but making poor timed defensive plays that still get rewarded is silly.
This game is supposed to be competitive. People play for money and this type of thing is just unacceptable.
Community ManagerI think in the real world, the stick grazing the skate like that isn't going to make someone like McDavid trip let alone most pro hockey players. In our game, you have to actively poke their skates to cause a trip.
@EA_Aljo wrote:I think in the real world, the stick grazing the skate like that isn't going to make someone like McDavid trip let alone most pro hockey players. In our game, you have to actively poke their skates to cause a trip.
The video does show my opponent poke checking Draisaitl's skates though.
Community ManagerSorry about that. I was looking at McDavid. Not Draisaitl since he doesn't have the puck. That's why he didn't get tripped either. You can't trip a player without the puck.
@EA_Aljo wrote:Sorry about that. I was looking at McDavid. Not Draisaitl since he doesn't have the puck. That's why he didn't get tripped either. You can't trip a player without the puck.
That makes no sense. You can take an interference or holding penalty when a player doesn't have the puck. But you can't take an equally undisciplined tripping penalty on a player without the puck?
Community ManagerI think we'd see too many tripping calls. Players could easily troll with this by tripping everyone and making games last far too long. It would most likely have a very frustrating affect on gameplay if we allowed this.
@EA_Aljo wrote:I think we'd see too many tripping calls. Players could easily troll with this by tripping everyone and making games last far too long. It would most likely have a very frustrating affect on gameplay if we allowed this.
So? Boot players that take too many penalties in a short amont of time. Kind of like when players used to get booted in WoC for taking too many penalties.
The skill gap should be there for a reason. Not reward players for making obvious mistakes that can be avoided.
@SturmWolfeIf there is one thing I am now dead certain of (thanks to the revert) it is that the community doesn't want a skill gap... this community wants easy hockey and nothing sim based or difficult. Every change that EA tries to make for the game to be more and more challenging and sim like is met with nothing by negativity.
Stick checking causing trips when it makes contact with any part of the skate (19 or 20 Beta).
The removal of LT. While I wasn't a super big fan of it from a "realism" POV, it did create a skill gap and while I, myself learned it, others just complained for its removal.
Tether control system which required constant activity from the goalie, punishing them for mistakes. Immediately whined about during beta. One excuse was that he "couldn't relax and eat while playing" not even joking.
The re-adding of holding the LT/L1 button to avoid pushing in front of the net when wingers want to spam up on the stick for one timers.
The new hitting scheme providing ways to both shove and check at the proper timing to be effective.
The change to hitting requiring you to have a half a brain when you try to go for a hit.
ALL OF THE FOLLOWING have been changes that made the game more difficult in a way and what did much of the community (NOT ALL) do? Complained and whined in Social Medias and forums for it to be changed back. Honestly at this point, I understand why the same game was being put out year after year from the previous developers. I understand why the Discord that was supposedly set up to be more in touch with the community got scrubbed. They learned that everyone wants change until they actually get it, then they want it out of their game and will do nothing but whine about it until they get it their way.
Edit: I still stand by my previous statement in saying that the stick tripping over people is too much, since unlike a game like slapshot rebound, you don't have FULL CONTROL of your stick at all times. If you did, than I'd be all for it.
@hiperay wrote: what did much of the community (NOT ALL) do? Complained and whined in Social Medias and forums for it to be changed back. Honestly at this point, I understand why the same game was being put out year after year from the previous developers. I understand why the Discord that was supposedly set up to be more in touch with the community got scrubbed. They learned that everyone wants change until they actually get it, then they want it out of their game and will do nothing but whine about it until they get it their way.
100%
The trolls across social media have made it so that you can't say anything positive about these changes without fear of being shouted down by the keyboard warriors for "not knowing hockey".
The entitlement of some of these streamers and social media personalities is astounding. EA makes a change and within hours they're "demanding" it be reverted.
I know that feedback from streamers isn't the only feedback considered, however, these streamers and Twitter personalities influence many others in their opinions. If a popular social media user who plays this game often decides he/she doesn't like the new features - their followers will fall in line with that opinion because if they differ - the groupthink excludes them and banishes them away as a 'shill' or 'defending EA'
Plus they don't even give these changes any time. If they're unsuccessful within the first 2-3 games, they're convinced EA was wrong and anyone who likes the changes is a 'shill'.
