Why I don't like NHL 24
These are all from the same game but my issue is that this is every game I play. These are just the goals let alone the myriad of other issues I have with the game. https://youtu.be/8HG8j0Q2j_U?si=x...
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@hiperayand I completely disagree that is the correct direction that the game should of taken. It makes for a frustrating game that makes one more angry than satisfied to play.
I'm also the ducks not the Bruins.
Before I make my counter statement can you explain what you think the direction of the game should be? Are you saying that making these mistakes shouldn't lead to goals being scored because it is only one small mistake?
Essentially I think the game should have great ai, great defense, and less frustrating collision detection. If I get in a passing lane I should rip that puck. Why does the offensive player get 100% passing detection when a guy who is literally looking at the puck ignore it?
Why is every goal off the rush?
Why is sustained pressure despite a pressure system not rewarded?
Why do close to the net cross creases get the benefit of being one of the few ways to score where it incentivizes playing like I do.
Do you think I want to force cross creases all day? No. I want to make good hockey passing plays, but the AI isn't designed to get open. No matter what offensive system you play. They don't hang the boards well, they don't cut, they don't do anything well outside of stand near the backside post or stand at the point.
It creates a one dimensional style of hockey. I don't think that goals off the rush should be the main scoring method. I don't think you should get a speed burst from holding the charge hit button, I don't think you should get bailed out when a goalie makes a stupid save that should be a goal. Then let in a floater from the circles off a backhand shot.
Consistency, I just showed the goals as I've mentioned. The countless other times I almost yell in frustration as guys walk the puck through legs and skates is every game I play. The game took everything annoying about NHL 23 and made me dislike the series. That's a tall hill they had to get over and by god they did it. I need to make a full video. Of a game to demonstrate everything.
The game isn’t good and yes other players do make mistakes that can lead to goals, etc. However when you look at the overall make up of this game it’s trash. It becomes more noticeable when you stop playing it for a while and then come back to it. Personally I’ve been playing MLB the Show. Now, this game of course just like any other has its issues as well. When I came back for a game of hockey the other day my initial reaction was wow!, this game is very bad. The Show has never made me say that. Like I said it has its issues but not to the extent that this game has. Same can be said for NBA 2K and Madden, the other sports games on the market
@BigCastle00 wrote:The game isn’t good and yes other players do make mistakes that can lead to goals, etc. However when you look at the overall make up of this game it’s trash. It becomes more noticeable when you stop playing it for a while and then come back to it. Personally I’ve been playing MLB the Show. Now, this game of course just like any other has its issues as well. When I came back for a game of hockey the other day my initial reaction was wow!, this game is very bad. The Show has never made me say that. Like I said it has its issues but not to the extent that this game has. Same can be said for NBA 2K and Madden, the other sports games on the market
To be fair this one sells less copies than every one of those series. Baseball is an easy sport to replicate, and Madden has been not fun for years. The RNG is annoying in EA games.
The main issue I have is defense is non existent. You can stand up a guy, try to rip the puck. Guy will tank it walk through and get an easy break. It's like, I just want a consistent product that rewards smart hockey vs letting people force nonsense all day.
One great change that could be made is poke check having another option where you steal the puck vs just poking it out. Have stick battles between guys about who can play it better instead of just poke checking it and it immediately going to another player on offense.
@hiperay wrote:Before I make my counter statement can you explain what you think the direction of the game should be? Are you saying that making these mistakes shouldn't lead to goals being scored because it is only one small mistake?
Still waiting on that counter statement.
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@llamaverox wrote:
Essentially I think the game should have great ai, great defense, and less frustrating collision detection. If I get in a passing lane I should rip that puck. Why does the offensive player get 100% passing detection when a guy who is literally looking at the puck ignore it?
I don't really think this answers the request from @hiperay to explain what you think the direction of the game should be. You're just saying that you'd like improvements to these areas. Which make up a significant amount of the gameplay. So, it's like saying, I just want a better game. That really doesn't describe your personal vision for what you want out of a hockey game.
When you say "100% passing detection", do you mean their ability to pick up the puck after it's been poked? If so, it's really not 100%. You have to keep in mind that the carrier is normally facing the puck and skating towards it while the defender is back skating away from the puck. The carrier has better positioning to pick it up. You also have to consider the ratings of the 2 players involved. I'd rather see the puck get poked further away so that it requires the offensive player to manually get into a better position to pick it up. This would give the defender a better chance at a turnover.
I definitely agree that it's frustrating currently seeing multiple pokes on the same player that knock the puck loose where they pick it up again. Because of this, I've taken to sweeping the puck away with DSS. This has worked a lot better. Especially if you sweep it away against the momentum of the carrier. It puts the defender in a better position to pick it up.
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@llamaverox wrote:Essentially I think the game should have great ai, great defense, and less frustrating collision detection. If I get in a passing lane I should rip that puck. Why does the offensive player get 100% passing detection when a guy who is literally looking at the puck ignore it?
When you say "100% passing detection", do you mean their ability to pick up the puck after it's been poked?
I don't want to speak for them, but I suspect they're talking about the difference in how defensive players react to an incoming pass and how offensive players do. If you're on defence and you've put yourself in a passing lane your ability to pick off or disrupt the pass depends on a number of factors ( attributes, speed, are you using DSS, rng, etc ). You can put yourself in a good position to disrupt the pass, but the success or failure is still somewhat out of your hands.
Offensive players on the other hand will almost always ( not 100%, but pretty close ) cleanly receive a pass made in their general direction regardless of orientation, speed, attributes, etc. Same with one-timing the incoming pass.
It's nothing new in EA hockey games, but it can be frustrating at times from a defensive perspective. I think something that might help would be if the game mechanics leaned more towards making it easier to disrupt the pass if your in the lane by deflecting or knocking the puck away rather than the current system that's geared towards trying to cleanly picking off passes but has a lower success rate.
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