Ok, so then maybe that's something that the dev team should consider changing? Like, doesn't it seem odd that forwards can receive these passes without issue, but defensemen get punished? Imo, this is a balancing issue that's been in need of addressing for a long time.
Community ManagerThat's certainly a fair statement. I'll pass on the feedback.
Also, pick ups aren't always guaranteed. For example, you have a better chance when gliding vs skating. The player's puck control and hand-eye ratings are also part of it. Again, not saying what happened here is good. Just giving you some context as to what helps with pick ups.
Also, regarding the first clip, that should have been picked up. We're looking into why that didn't happen. Appreciate you sending these over.
I do appreciate that, Aljo. Honestly.
It's also funny you mentioned the thing about gliding vs skating. I was just in a game where I was having to defend a bunch of 2-on-1 type of passes, and one of the passes I actually grabbed was one where I stopped skating. I absolutely see what you're talking about and have actually noticed this in past games.
If I could offer some feedback, however, I would point out that, especially since the meta in the game is still speed, not being able to reliably pick up pucks unless I, as a defender, stop skating, is a really unfair task. Because, if I stop skating, these 95 speed forwards are just going to blow right by me, and it's been my experience that these forwards don't have to glide to pick up pucks, nor do they need to be facing the puck.
It seems really counterintuitive that in order to defend better, I have to put myself in a worse position.
I also completely agree that there shouldn't be a guarantee of an interception. In real hockey, a guy can be in perfect position and the puck will sometimes just find that perfect bit of daylight and elude the defender. I think that's fair. What my issue with plays like we see in this clips isn't that they happen, it's the rate at which they happen. These kinds of passes simply eluding players with good defensive abilities and good positioning just happen too frequently.
Community ManagerThank you. I definitely appreciate the constructive feedback.
You make some good points. We want to move away from the meta of speed, but speed is also a fundamental part of the sport so obviously, it needs to be an important attribute. Defense also needs to be able to appropriately counter this when proper defense is being played. Meaning, good positioning should be rewarded. As you mentioned, not necessarily every time, but you should have a significantly higher chance of breaking up the play.
If you have any more clips you want to submit, please do. Those really help.
I know the team is aware of the feedback on speed we've been seeing. We'll have to wait to see what comes out of this.
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/LicviBDcds
I think this is the only other clip I've recorded.
This particular play I'm not even that upset with just because you could argue that I'm not 100% in the lane, and sometimes passes SHOULD elude defenders just to add some sense of randomness and realism to the game.
I think what annoys me is that the game often leaves me wondering exactly what I'm supposed to do. I try skating with my back to the play and I miss the puck. I backskate and I miss the puck. I stand directly in the lane and I miss the puck. I stand slightly outside of the lane and I miss the puck. I've tried 94 defensive awareness with gold quick pick, 90ish defensive awareness with no quick pick at all. Nothing seems to really work reliably.
A lot of this really wouldn't be an issue, imo, if the forwards recieving the pass also had the same level of trouble picking up passes. Like, the only time I think I ever see a player not perfectly recieve a pass from his teammate is if the two players are really close to each other and it's a hard pass, or if it's like a stretch pass and the player receiving the pass turns the opposite direction of where the pass is going.
