Re: Possible Cheaters in PGA Tour? High scores or leaving game

im no slouch of a player and even i cant keep up with the -13 on the 9 holes.  this week, back 9 whistling straights, 2 par 3s and 2 par 5s, to get to -13 that means the player is acing BOTH par 3s and eagles on both par 5s with birdies sprayed in the par 4s... and with the conditions... c'mon now, no one has that kind of "luck"

and 2 players mind you

i can get -11 on 9 holes, usually with no effort, but these..... i dont even know what to call them... i just dont think their that good

EA... get this -competitive- stuff working because i really wanna see how "good" these people are in straight up 1v1 with no re-tries

@ragingsaintI think 13 is very doable on that back 9. I tried it and shot -11, but with my character stats, I was able to barely reach 2 par 4s in 1 so those are the likely 2 extra eagles that someone got. I didn't fully focus on power, so if I had more stats geared toward power, those holes would have been easier to reach for someone who has.

I do agree though that tournaments should be 1 entry.  It makes sense and it's not really fair to allow re-playing the same tournament repeatedly and memorizing the conditions.  I rarely attempt a tournament more than once but I'm sure there are some that do many tries.

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@-Roasted513- wrote:

im no slouch of a player and even i cant keep up with the -13 on the 9 holes.  this week, back 9 whistling straights, 2 par 3s and 2 par 5s, to get to -13 that means the player is acing BOTH par 3s and eagles on both par 5s with birdies sprayed in the par 4s... and with the conditions... c'mon now, no one has that kind of "luck"

and 2 players mind you

i can get -11 on 9 holes, usually with no effort, but these..... i dont even know what to call them... i just dont think their that good

EA... get this -competitive- stuff working because i really wanna see how "good" these people are in straight up 1v1 with no re-tries

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what are you ranked in competitive?

Just noticed someone today posted a -31 on 18 holes of arcade weekly tournament ( PC )

I don’t care how good you are, absolutely nobody is doing that.  Nobody.  There is cheating going on for sure.

-13 on 9 holes is nothing amazing.  That is only 2 holeouts for the round or 1 holeout and a drivable par 4.   People.  Get it through your heads, players are THAT good.  

I increasingly wonder if the top scores on console could be used as some sort of sanity check, such that if a score on PC is say more than a shot or two better than the best on console that it gets flagged to be looked at. 

For context the current top scores on PS5 for the weekly events are as follows:

Arcade: -21

Pro: -21

Tour: -18

Sim: -11

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@-Roasted513- wrote:
@RichACi pick and choose choose what i play, but under 300, ill compete with anyone

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no idea what you are saying here.  I asked you what your rank is in the online competitive mode.

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

I increasingly wonder if the top scores on console could be used as some sort of sanity check, such that if a score on PC is say more than a shot or two better than the best on console that it gets flagged to be looked at. 

For context the current top scores on PS5 for the weekly events are as follows:

Arcade: -21

Pro: -21

Tour: -18

Sim: -11

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Theres no difference.  You get the same scores as far as I know.  If you get the occasional dude going -31 like here.   its rare on pc too since I've never seen it.  The fact they are not enabling crossplay because of this outdated naive notion that people only cheat on the pc,   is disappointing. 

I for one strive for -13 on 18 with fair conditions.   -21?   not in my lifetime, most I could do is -18 lol.   but I don't doubt people can hit that.  but consistently?   wow....

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@RichAC wrote:

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

I increasingly wonder if the top scores on console could be used as some sort of sanity check, such that if a score on PC is say more than a shot or two better than the best on console that it gets flagged to be looked at. 

For context the current top scores on PS5 for the weekly events are as follows:

Arcade: -21

Pro: -21

Tour: -18

Sim: -11

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Theres no difference.  You get the same scores as far as I know.  If you get the occasional dude going -31 like here.   its rare on pc too since I've never seen it.  The fact they are not enabling crossplay because of this outdated naive notion that people only cheat on the pc,   is disappointing. 

I for one strive for -13 on 18 with fair conditions.   -21?   not in my lifetime, most I could do is -18 lol.   but I don't doubt people can hit that.  but consistently?   wow....

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Sorry but I disagree. I've regularly seen screenshots posted of the top of the PC leaderboards which have scores that just don't happen on console. You've even mentioned one in your reply.

The top scores I see on console I can believe are possible for the very top players. Cheating is a PC-only problem as far as I'm concerned.

I don't often finish high enough to be able to see the very top of the leaderboard but did on the 4-hole arcade yesterday so I can give that as an example.

The top two got -7, then 12 got -6 and I was in the much larger group that got -5 (can't tell how many as it goes beyond the top 100). These scores are all believable to me, with only the top two requiring an approach shot to have been holed, and this does occasionally happen to all of us I'm sure.

With the ability to spin the ball anything is possible 

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@-Roasted513- wrote:
@RichACits hoving in the 2-250 range, depends on scores i post.
also i havent played every event since launch

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I was talking about the online stroke play.  whats your win//loss? and rank.   i'm rank 72.   72-62  Although I was just clobbering a guy moments ago and he quit on me and I don't believe I got a win for it.  Which happens alot.

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

I increasingly wonder if the top scores on console could be used as some sort of sanity check, such that if a score on PC is say more than a shot or two better than the best on console that it gets flagged to be looked at. 

For context the current top scores on PS5 for the weekly events are as follows:

Arcade: -21

Pro: -21

Tour: -18

Sim: -11

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Theres no difference.  You get the same scores as far as I know.  If you get the occasional dude going -31 like here.   its rare on pc too since I've never seen it.  The fact they are not enabling crossplay because of this outdated naive notion that people only cheat on the pc,   is disappointing. 

I for one strive for -13 on 18 with fair conditions.   -21?   not in my lifetime, most I could do is -18 lol.   but I don't doubt people can hit that.  but consistently?   wow....

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Sorry but I disagree. I've regularly seen screenshots posted of the top of the PC leaderboards which have scores that just don't happen on console. You've even mentioned one in your reply.

The top scores I see on console I can believe are possible for the very top players. Cheating is a PC-only problem as far as I'm concerned.

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I didn't mention any scores in my reply that are unheard of.  Your talking about -21 leading a tournament on console.     You saw screenshots on the web?   LMAO.   I played in the Daily pro and play in the tour everyday and I've never seen scores like the OP or anyone is talking about.  Where?  When?  Never saw a -31 on 18.   or -12 on a hole 4?    At this point they are rumours and photo shopped pictures.   but  did it happen?  Maybe,  probably happened on console too and you never noticed either.  And if you are talking about Arcade , well gimme a break lol.     Most of the screenshots are from people on pc man,  its just easier for us to record and post it.  Doesn't mean it has more cheaters.  Thats an archaic and outdated way of thinking.  This 2023.  EA's servers have been getting hit the past couple weekends because these are the times we live in..   

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

I don't often finish high enough to be able to see the very top of the leaderboard but did on the 4-hole arcade yesterday so I can give that as an example.

The top two got -7, then 12 got -6 and I was in the much larger group that got -5 (can't tell how many as it goes beyond the top 100). These scores are all believable to me, with only the top two requiring an approach shot to have been holed, and this does occasionally happen to all of us I'm sure.

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It shows everyone in the top 100.  I'm not sure what you are talking about.   Right now the daily tour 18 the top guy is -19.    three people tied for 2nd with -18.   top ten -15 and up.  I'm -11 at 49th place.   Like I said there is literally no difference.   You are believing myths and lies bud and talking about a company that abandoned the pc 15 years ago because of their misplaced paranoia.   And showing the world again how out of touch they are with no turn based online modes or ways to chat with other players,  and not adding cross play to keep the community active.

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@RichAC wrote:

I didn't mention any scores in my reply that are unheard of.  

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If you check back you'll see you mentioned a score of -31 🙂.Reading again I see you were trying to discount this ever happening though. I did see a screenshot of this particular example and think it was probably genuine, and there have been other examples of people complaining of unrealistic scores. Always on PC.

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@RichAC wrote:

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 Most of the screenshots are from people on pc man,  its just easier for us to record and post it.  Doesn't mean it has more cheaters.  Thats an archaic and outdated way of thinking.  This 2023.  EA's servers have been getting hit the past couple weekends because these are the times we live in..   

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On this point, PC categorically has a vastly bigger cheating problem across basically all games. Cheating pretty much doesn't happen on console whereas it is an obvious and well known issue on PC. There are even surveys with a significant proportion of players on PC admitting to cheating. This is not some sort of criticism of all PC players and not in any way saying that all cheat - just a reflection of the reality.

For context I'm really into the F1 games and this sadly has a big cheating problem on PC, including major questions over the official eSports as a result. 

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

I didn't mention any scores in my reply that are unheard of.  

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If you check back you'll see you mentioned a score of -31 🙂.Reading again I see you were trying to discount this ever happening though. I did see a screenshot of this particular example and think it was probably genuine, and there have been other examples of people complaining of unrealistic scores. Always on PC.

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SO you've never actually seen it yourself.  Just a screenshot on reddit?   And here you are acting like it happens all the time?  I'm telling you again I've never seen it and I play everyday on the PC on tour and pro modes.   And if they are cheating on the pc,   they are cheating on consoles too.  

This really reminds me of EA abandoning the PC and sticking with consoles citing game piracy.  But the same ignorant attitude that it only happens on the PC,  must of slapped them in the face when they realized piracy on consoles is an even bigger business.  It was so bad at teh time even my next door neighbor who is not tech saavy at all was pirating playstation games.  Even got one of them bricked and he just bought another lol.     The real reason was that everyone moved to consoles because of the cheating on the PC.   But now fastforward to 2023 and people are cheating on FPS games on the console just as much as on the pc now bud.   I can't imagine how a golf game is any different,  common sense would tell me it would only be easier.  Especially given that EA has never implemented much anti features in any of their games on top of it.    

So really just like we can't worry ourselves with cheaters since noone in reality is willing to do anything about them.  The OP in this thread is probably not even willing to give up his anonymity lol.   The developers themselves shouldn't worry about it either and introduce some more multiplayer and social aspects to this game.  Private online matches and club tournaments never died in the old games.