Re: F1® 22 - Patch 1.09 Discussion Thread

Ok, I have thought long an hard about whether I want to be an active beta tester for the multimillion dollar monopoly cooperation that is EA Sports ("its in the game" - er well its actually not but anyways)

this may well be my last post until some serious action is taken.

Clearly this game has been released way too early (or not, half way through F1 season - and surely after multiple years of F1 versions this one might be ok? - anyway let's move on and thank F for flashback - which I despise using although it gets a huge workout ) 

note - sorry in advance for any spelling mistakes or stupid spell suggestion changes that I miss - as I will not be going over it again once typed 

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100 % Driver career - I have just completed my 8th round, Baku.

I seriously considered deleting the game. I will try and be concise although will probably need to expand to explain the issues which I will bullet point here.....

***note, I get that the R&D upgrades to the car affect how fast and balanced it is - that aside the issues below still stand !

Alfa Romeo car considered to be 4th best overall - level with Alpine and Mclaren !

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* Practice programs are rubbish and not accurate

* Speed trap information missing

* Sector and speed trap markings on the track map are missing

* Tyre temperatures are completely different to, *all previous race meetings or *just with update 1.09 ?  - Good and Bad

* Tyre wear on the MFD(Multi function Display, accessible in cockpit) - inaccurate - compared to *all previous race meetings or *just with update 1.09 ? Linked to above tyre temp differences ?

* Other drivers can run hards or mediums or multiples of in prac 2 and 3 ?

* Tyre temps during - "Drive Out" - vs - "Flying" lap 

* At the end of a VSC - the VSC went back to racing - a red box flashed up saying I was over delta( after it ended ) I got a drive through penalty 

* Ridiculousness of Delta under VSC

* No delta during the race to your personal fastest lap for the race - or preset lap from practice

* Formation lap tyre warming nearly impossible

* AI seem to suffer ZERO tyre wear

* AI - in general 

* Zero damage wing replaced in pitstop 

* Prac and Qualifying track grip COMPLETELY different to race - but not for AI?

* AI outlaps from pits don't suffer from cold tyre temp understeer

* Seriously there is more than likely more issues but i just got so over the race/game that my mind was warped

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Ok so lets expand

1.  Practice programs are rubbish and not accurate

Focus on the Qual sim program as this has happened twice in a row

I do the program and fail it miserably - says I won't qualify in the top 15.  Yet the time I did put me 2nd in the session WTF..... Do I try more things with the car or not?  Car feels balanced and fast, not sure how I'd find more time on the track, like 1 second LOL....

Go into Qual - and qual easily through to Q3 and finish 5th - WTF seriously - a waste of a sim program, which throws you off your car balance and you over drive the car thinking you are doing some thing wrong.

Needs to be fixed 

2.  Speed trap information missing

For setting wing and car up for exit drive this information is critical and yet it is nearly impossible to find data.

This is information that informs you of engine quality, wing speed and chassis setup, driving style for exit of turn where the speed trap is - some would say CRITICAL - after race engineering top category cars for years I find this unbelievable that this information isn't a part of the Laptime page in the garage ???????

3.  Sector and speed trap markings on the track map are missing

Pretty simple addition I would have thought - a line on the track map showing the sector and speed trap location - even pit entry and exit pit speed lines?

We used to have these on track maps for our seasoned high quality major championship/Bathurst 1000 wining race drivers for every event - amazingly simple and CRITICAL information.

I'd expect this in update 1.10 or I will not be playing the game

4. Tyre temperatures are completely different to, *all previous race meetings or *just with update 1.09 ?  - Good and Bad

Ok so a feature which seemed to throw me was that I was able to setup the tyre pressure so that I could achieve better tyre temperatures on the track.  GREAT!!!

Really good feature, although not noted in the 1.09 update so don't know whether this is just a one off for Baku or something that will consistently be available moving forward.

Tyre temperatures seemed to be hitting a better peak temp for the tyre pressure.

The tyre wear program was easily passed ( maybe this one works? ) 

So that is the good.....

The bad comes with the next issue.....

5. Tyre wear on the MFD(Multi function Display, accessible in cockpit) - inaccurate - compared to *all previous race meetings or *just with update 1.09 ? Linked to above tyre temp differences ?

Ok so with the "new" tyre temperature "good" has this affected the tyre wear over the car.

in the race I had a seriously, and I mean a SERIOUSLY, understeery car, yet the tyre temps were perfect over the car 92 all round 

the tyre wear however - WTF.   I have 45% wear on the rear and 35% wear on the front - who knows but I should have been spinning out of every cnr yet all that was happening was that I would turn in and the car wanted to eat every exit wall 

So tyre wear to car balance is completely inaccurate and now useless

Now, as this was happening, I had the AI cars who seemed to have fresh softs at the start of every lap no matter what tyre they were on - that being either leclerc(battle for 5th me and him 6th at the start of the race, understandable for is car development ) or latifi(battle at the end of the race for last place LMAO hahahahah what a joke)

6. Other drivers can run hards or mediums or multiples of in prac 2 and 3 ?

So during P1 we have access to a set of hard and a set of medium which we lose after the session

How are the AI running around on two sets of mediums or a set of softs and hard in P2 or in P3 a set of mediums when you lose them at the end of P2 ???????????

Ill leave that there - ridiculous - fix it for 1.10 or I'm not playing the game 

7. Tyre temps during - "Drive Out" - vs - "Flying" lap 

When you use Flying lap you always get a 92 all-round tyre temp at the start of the lap, GREAT !

When you drive out of the pits - no matter how hard you try you struggle to get the tyres above 85 - WTF hahahahah FIX IT 

8.  At the end of a VSC - the VSC went back to racing - a red box flashed up saying I was over delta( after it ended ) I got a drive through penalty

This happened and I was furious, lucky it was the start of the race lap 7 and i restarted the race all over again !

The VSC cleary started it was over - the red box flashed - the race recommenced but I got a DT penalty - WTF

9.  Ridiculousness of Delta under VSC

This MUST be fixed.

when the VSC first gets announced you can manage slowing down quickly - then it goes from negative(red) -1 sec to immediatly positive(green) 2-3seconds up to 7 seconds  

you speed up to catch up, sometimes can't, and then it goes red nearly immediately - then green back to red - just absolutely BULL ssssshhhh   - I find myself focussed wholly on the red green and miss brake marks - bash multiple walls and cars - flash back gets a ridiculous work out  - it is so ridiculous that it is hilarious and i cry with laughter 

FIX IT for 1.10 or Im not playing the game.

10. No delta during the race to your personal fastest lap for the race - or preset lap from practice

Just like in prac or qual when you set a lap it becomes you delta for the next run.

Why isn't this in the race - CRITICAL information of race pace/speed/driving improvement with lines etc

This is on all race cars now 

MUST BE ADDED for 1.10 or I'm not playing the game

11. Formation lap tyre warming nearly impossible

I find the cars in front are half way round the track and i am weaving and brake accelerating trying to warm tyres and the whole grid is formed waiting for me as i'm struggling to get tyre up to anywhere near 90deg 

12.  AI seem to suffer ZERO tyre wear

Self explanatory - qualified 5th and EVERYCAR - top cars mid field or back of field cars CLIMB all over you lap after lap - they then get in front and just sort of sit there don't brake away a huge gap but when behind you it is like they have fresh soft tyres on every corner - WTF - leads to next issue

13.  AI - in general 

been written about extensively - just ridiculous to have a car qual in 5th and have the ENTIRE field CLIMBING in your cockpit corner after corner, those in front mount a 10-20second gap in 5 laps because you are concentrating on blocking the AI behind - block them stupidly and they lose 1.5-2seconds and then 3 corners later they are all over you again - completely ridiculous to have a fast car but can't do anything with it .

Note: I worked on the balance of the car with a full fuel load in practice and had a great balance - in the race it didn't matter, from leclerc(Qual 6th) to latifi(QUAL DEAD LAST) you are a roadblock.

It is not ERS or DRS as this happens every corner with or without both - and most of the time you are using it yourself!

For some reason, at miami - I was able to battle with the AI competitively - could focus and pull a gap on alonso, about 0.05 - 0.15 sec per lap which resulted in 2-3 second gap after 20odd laps - that was the best race for realism - i qualified in the top 10 and was able to race with them - is this because this is a new track and EA have focused on setting the AI properly for this track ?

Needless to say it is completely different track to track - and I mean COMPLETELY 

14.  Zero damage wing replaced in pitstop 

So on my second stop I did not have any damage to the wing - all solid green no hint of a yellow at all - the team changed is - WTF not only that they then decided to Fxxx the stop up and that's why I ended up with latifi

15. Prac and Qualifying track grip COMPLETELY different to race - but not for AI?

So i spend all FULL prac sessions setting the car up for qual and race - soft tyre runs and full fuel medium/hard tyre runs 

It seem this is a complete waste of time except for qual where I finished 5th.

Going into the race the race balance tested in practice is TOTALLY different and inconsitant race track to race track - WTF is going on here ????

AI it seems have no problem at all - of course 

16.   AI outlaps from pits don't suffer from cold tyre temp understeer

Even after I complete what I would call a great outlaw - the AI are always quicker out of the pits on "cold' tyres - we have massive understeer to deal with and they don't seem to have the same issue!

Just another clue to the AI being overpowered and nearly unplayable.

So with that said I will leave it there - if there are no serious improvements in the VERY near future - I will never buy an EASports game again - waste of time and money.

Note - I will not be posting as a beta tester again - I don't get paid to do it - I paid for the game - and this is NOT ABOUT THE MONEY 

IN THE MEANTIME - I WILL BE PLAYING - F1 MANAGER 2022 - which looks a whole lot more realistic to the type of F1 game we would expect as enthusiasts!  

As it looks like "ITS IN THE GAME"