Teambuilder Concerns - Wishlist
So, after viewing Teambuilder for both Madden and CFB, I can say w/out a shadow of a doubt, CFB is better. There are some things that concern me about Madden's Teambuilder that needs to be fixed. I also wanna showcase a wishlist for what would benefit Madden's Teambuilder, I've already got one for CFB which can be viewed HERE. A lot of what is there, will find its way in here, and I'm actively updating that wishlist as myself, or the community thinks of anything.
1. So, lets start w/ what is concerning. Biggest thing is the number of logos per team. While CFB has 10 (which still isn't enough), Madden only has 5. Think about that for a min. 5 logos for up to potentially 5 uniforms, and the stadium. W/ the lack of Teambuilder options, there's nearly no way to create some of these teams w/ that low of amount of logos.
2. Speaking of lack of options and needing logos to create uniforms, this brings me to my next point. Speaking purely on the Patriots current uniforms here, the 3rd Nike jersey option for CFB had the shoulder striping that the Patriots use. Moving over to Madden's 3rd option, the shoulder stripe is the Panther's stripe (Aididas stripe on CFB). This now means a logo has to be used for a shoulder stripe that was literally part of the CFB version. Y is this an issue, b/c for a team like the Patriots, u now have to create 3 separate colored logos to design the jersey, which of course ties into 1, we only have 5 logo slots.
3. We don't have stadium creator in either version. We have branded stadiums in CFB yet no generic. We have the generic relo stadiums in Madden but not the irl, it's crazy. I was hoping/expecting to have the stadiums for each of the 32 teams, as well as the relo stadiums.
4. In my league, I wanna recreate the NFL teams w/ my league crest, and the logos I created for each team. I also want to be able to use Teambuilder to envision a rebranding of the NFL teams. Can't do that for the reasons above. I also can't do so b/c we can't use the NFL team names like we can w/ CFB Teambuilder (I created a rebrand of PSU w/ no issue). Ik some would be dumb about it and do stuff to teams they don't like, but I just want my users and my league to feel more true to life, using full team branding would allow that.
Now, lets start w/ the wishlist.
Custom Layers/Custom Logos
• More than 5 logos per team
• Layers go under assets
• More than 5 layers for jerseys
Touching on this from earlier, and CFB, an amount of 20 logos would go a long way in creating any of our Madden teams.
Some custom layers go over the assets (selectable options), some don't. My solution is this, custom layers should go under ALL assets, but the assets must be selected and on the uniform in order for the custom layers to be underneath. What this means is if u have a cuff selected, the layer will NEVER go overtop the cuff. If u don't have cuff set to NONE, the layer will engulf the entire sleeve.
Again, this is an issue here as well as CFB Teambuilder. The most important part of the uniform has the least number of custom layers. Helmets have 7 (which u basically have 5 w/ the American flag and warning sticker), and pants have 11. 5 isn't nearly enough to create a jersey when u want to create something unique, or if u r trying to recreate the new uniforms like Denver or Seattle. Especially when u've got to have a layer for basically each side or front and back. I'd give a min of 10, better would be near 15 custom layers to make better looking jerseys. I'd throw 10 on the helmet as well, just so they all have nearly equal amounts.
Assets/Adding Assets
• More collars
• More cuffs
• More shoulder/chest stripes
• Fix pants stripes
• Add Sleeve, side panel, and shoulders to assets
- Again, not quite sure if this is due to beta (I hope so), or if it is something else, but we severely lack in the department of the assets. We need WAY more than what we have. Custom layers help, but to not be so reliant on this, we need the assets to relieve some of the layer intake, especially since jerseys only have 5 layers.
Currently only Nike has collars, even then, 2 of the 3 stitch designs even have those, which only gives us 2 dif ones. I wanna see all 3 jerseys have options. Bring back options to have like 2 and 3 colored collars. It's boring having no, or 1 colored collar, even when the 2nd Nike collar has a tag that's changeable, it's not the same. I want be able to do collars like the 2010s Patriots for instance. For reference, they had 3 colors. Matter of fact, I believe the Bills unis currently have multi-colored collars.
Again, not many options for cuffs. There are 3 options for Nike, which thankfully all 3 jerseys can use. Ik w/ the way the jerseys r designed these days, u hardly need cuffs, but it'd be nice to have some more options.
There's literally like no options for Shoulder/Chest striping. Of the 3 Nike designs, only 1 has use of the lone shoulder stripe. Even then as I stated earlier, it's not the shoulder stripe from CFB Teambuilder (the one the Patriots use) it's the CFB Adidas one (the one the Panthers use). My issue here, once again, OPTIONS. The shoulder striping alone for Nike should have a distance option as the Jets r bringing back their classic jersey which has the shoulder stripes right on top of the sleeves, whereas the current shoulder option is like the Patriots, LSU, etc. Just use of Nike alone w/ what they did in the NFL should account for any and all available options for Teambuilder.
As of now, some paints stripes w/ 3 color options all have a blackened outline. I believe the change to the 3rd color is for stitching, but there's always a black outline that never changes color, and the issue here is, they make u not wanna use them if u don't want or have black in the design. I made an alt jersey for one of my teams in CFB where I wanted just the light blue and white, the black I was fine w/ in the other uniforms since it was part of the logo. But this particular design I wanted no black, and I had to go and remove the striping I used b/c it had that black outline. Now if I want the striping, I need to create a logo to use for it.
Going back to not only striping, but even make it just an asset or a selectable option to change the color or shoulders sleeves. Currently if u wanna change sleeve color, u need to have a logo. Allowing us to either just change the color as an asset (see sleeve, cuff, collar as an asset), or add it as a sleeve option makes it so that's 1 less logo tied up into the team that could be used somewhere else w/ our current 10 logo limit. *See some of the XFL/USFL jerseys, believe even some colleges do this. Same goes for the shoulders. Either make it an asset to recolor or make it an option to the Jersey Design asset. *See XFL/USFL jerseys, or 2010s Bills. Also, if we wanna create side panels for jerseys, we need to use up 4 custom layers b/c 1 layer gets cut off at the seam of the side of the jersey and disappears, so u need to have 2 to make a side panel. Having this as an asset or somehow create an option for it is needed. What do I mean by side panel? I'm talking about how the jersey is 1 color, but then the side is a dif color. To view what I mean, take a look at the 2010s Patriots away jersey. While the jersey was white, the side was navy w/ red piping. This would be another thing to take jerseys to the next level and continue to make a further reach for not creating the same jersey twice.
Team Branding
• Allow us to use irl names
Ik that there's more than likely a reason as to y we can't use the team names, but like I said earlier, I wanna create the teams to my full ability w/ my league crest and team logos I created. Goes a long way to allow uniform rebrands for the teams, just allow us to use the irl names. If we can do it for college, we should be able to do it here.
Mirroring Options
• Allow us to mirror sleeves, pants, like helmet
Currently if u wanna add a team logo or a sleeve logo to a team, u need to use 2 custom layers. Only time u don't is if u edit the EA logo, which only works if u have striping or a sleeve design or logo that doesn't need mirroring. Making sleeves and pant legs like the helmets allows us to do what we need to do on sleeves, and custom layer striping for pants, freeing up the use of 1 custom layer in those situations. And w/ only 5 jersey layers, that would make a huge difference. And if u dk what I mean, the helmet has the EA logo on it as well. When u edit the logo, u can take any layer there, and hit the mirror option to flip it just like a helmet logo would be, making it look exactly like the other side. Usually, a jersey sleeve is the same way, where the left sleeve mirrors the right sleeve, so makes sense for this to be an option here. same w/ any pant stripes that r being used.
Materials
• Chrome
• Metallic Flake
• Pearlescent
• Fabric
We have chrome as a material for other features (it's also in CFB Teambuilder), but we can't use it for the NFL helmets. Ik it's likely b/c there is no chrome helmet in the NFL, but it should still be an option honestly. Especially if we can chrome out the logos and accessories.
Having metal flake and pearlescent material for helmets especial would be a nice touch. The Patriots use a metallic flake giving their helmets that extra shine, and The NDSU Bison in college have a bit of a pearlescent look in their helmet. We need these options to create more accurate teams, as well as even cooler custom teams. A pearl helmet in the NFL could be so cool.
For the fabric material, I specifically want this for the jersey and pants options for custom layers. Right now, we have glassy, matte, satin, and chrome. All while cool and useful, sometimes a sublimated look would be nice, especially for any uniforms that have a gradient, or some of design in the uniform itself, even for sleeves and striping. None of the materials currently give off the look where the custom layer actually looks like actual fabric, matching the entire look of the uniform, as each material has a variant on look, and shade changing of the colors. To 100% match the shades and giving it that feel of the look of the jersey or pant, we need a fabric material. Unfortunately, they r noticeable on the change in material by its shine, and yes even matte has a bit of a shine to is, whereas the fabric has none. I want to avoid that in some cases.
Text
• Add a text layer
• Add more text options
We have no text option for names in either Teambuilder. While yes, it is nice to have the ability to use custom layers for the jersey text, once again, w/ 10 logos, and only 5 layers for the jersey, that's 1 unnecessary layer that gets used that otherwise wouldn't if we had a text layer option.
Of course, w/ wanting text layer option, it goes hand in hand w/ the addition of more text. Nike only has 4 text options, a whopping 23 number options (which some of those could have the text option added). Regardless, we need many many more text options in order to continue to create unique uniforms. If we don't think any of the text w/ a HUGE upgrade in options, go ahead and use a custom text at that point. Ik personally I'd do a mix, and that's a lot of what this thread is about, using the best of both worlds by combining a vast array of Teambuilder options, w/ all the custom tools at our disposal.
Save Image
It'd be nice to be able to right click on the pieces, helmet, jersey, and pants, and save them as an image through the site. Right now u gotta screenshot it, which make u have to do extra work to clear the background, but having a way to right click and save as a png image saves time when trying to get shots of our uniforms to showcase to ppl, hoping they like the teams, and wanna DL them. Especially since u won't have to edit out a background, it would just be an image of the helmet, jersey, and pants. All it needs to be is clear, which wouldn't be an issue, make them like a 1024x1024 square or something like that, any small resizing/editing after that could be done.
TEAM NAME
• Character limit increase
Something I had on my mind and forgot to actually add here was the Hometown name. Not sure y we only have a 14 character limit for that, but I think it's dumb, especially considering the Stadium name has a much larger limit, FYI one of my stadiums is name Lou Santalucia III Memeorial Stadium. We for sure need a higher character limit, I literally can't fit Williamsport A&M as a team name in CFB Teambuilder.
DUPLICATION
• Dupe Home to Away, vice versa
• Allow duplication of 3rd, 4th, 5th uniforms to represent changes
As it stands now, we can duplicate home and away to the 3rd, 4th, and 5th uniform set, but not to each other. Being able to do so would save time on creating if all we r doing r color swaps for the home and away uniforms.
We can duplicate the 3rd, 4th, and 5th alternate uniforms, but the issue here is that when u do so, they actually duplicate the default uniform as opposed to the changes that were made. So the change here would be akin to duplicating the home and away, where the changes made reflect on the uniform slot u duplicated to.
CREATE A STADIUM
Right now, we only have generic relo stadiums in the game (which only is like 5 or 6), not even any irl. While generic and irl stadiums would 100% be great, giving us a stadium builder would be even better. Allow use to recolor and place logos on the field like we do now, but give us to color the walls, seats, writing on the walls, placing scoreboards where we want. Adding dif types of seating, along w/ press boxes. Put the name of the stadium in there. Choose where our stadium resides whether is rural, country, in the city, etc. Essentially, w/e u see in irl stadiums, we can do in create a stadium. Make it like the old Madden games when we had create a team, or I believe even the old Teambuilder had something kinda similar.
SOCKS
• Sock striping
• Add designs to socks
This should be a no brainer. Teams use sock striping, yet that's not even an option.
Allow us to add designs to socks as well to further create unique ones.
BUMPERS
• Move logos
We can rotate and resize logos on the bumpers (which r off-center by the way), but we can't get the ability to move the logos around, this is needed if u aren't gonna fix the centering.
NUMBER FILLERS
• Adding textures to numbers
A really cool addition would be to be able to add textures to numbers. For instance, I have a team in CFB, Reno Rage, they have a flame shoulder, would've been cool to add the image to the numbers as well, being able to create flaming numbers on the jersey (see defunct AFL LA Kiss for this). Also doing gradients and stuff like that (something similar to Washington Commanders away uniforms) via textures would be cool. Bottom line just opens up the uniqueness of the uniforms.
Brand Adjustment
• Being able to move branding logos
Something I was thinking about, and this also goes hand in hand w/ the CFB Teambuilder, but being able to adjust where we want the team uniform branding would be nice. Whether it be the left chest area, the collar, even the sleeves, we should be able to place it, then adjust where we want it. Normally they'd be on the 3 areas I stated. Particularly w/ Madden/NFL, I find it odd that the Nike Swoosh is on the chest when they r all on the sleeves.
COMMUNITY SUGGESTIONS FROM CFB THAT APPLY TO M25:
• Teambuilder teams usable via offline dynasty - Being able to use our teams in an offline dynasty would be nice as well. Some wanna use just their teams in a super conference or have the ability to control all their Teambuilder teams.
• Add Washington D.C./other countries as a location - I like this, we need this. The Washington Commanders r based in D.C yet it isn't even an option, and considering it is part of U.S., kinda baffling to its omission. Same goes for using other countries as locations. The relo system in Madden allowed us to go to Mexico, Canada, UK, etc, but they aren't location options for Teambuilder.
• Era period equipment/universal equipment selection - Having era period equipment selectable allows to recreate schools from different eras they've gone through. Also, allow us to choose a universal setting of equipment if we want the entire team to look alike.
• Ability to watch games - This doesn't pertain much to Teambuilder, but being able to watch dynasty games would be cool.
• Number/Font outlines - Instead of giving us the options w/ outlines, give use just the base font, and allow us to choose up to 2 outline that we can resize as we wish, or skew them to create the 3D or block effect. We literally don't even have all the correct # fonts for the NFL teams.
EDIT:
NUMBER OF UNIFORM SETS
• Adding more uniforms
So, both for CFB and Madden TB we have 5 uniform sets. Of course, more r needed for CFB, but it's also a solid number. For Madden, I think we need more (preferably 7 or 8). I think this b/c if we r creating the irl Madden teams, doing any rebrands, being able to add as many throwback versions as possible would be cool. U have teams like Titans, Patriots, etc who've had either multiple uniform changes, or have multiple uniform combos, meaning if we wanna bring those uniforms in, we would need more uniform sets. adding an additional 3 would be nice. Realistically doubling this would be insane. Having 10 uniform sets would be so cool, but then we for sure would need even more logo spots than the 20 I suggested (for sure current CFB/Madden slots).