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Re: Auction house MM

So basically your telling me to go sets and trade him . No that's not how that works you definitely just dont insist on telling me what to do with my player. I should be able post Edelman for that particular price thats way lower than other cards on the auction. See that's yall problem yall want to control people. I want to sell my player . 

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  • EA_Blueberry's avatar
    EA_Blueberry
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    6 years ago

    @Lilawah wrote:

    So basically your telling me to go sets and trade him . No that's not how that works you definitely just dont insist on telling me what to do with my player. I should be able post Edelman for that particular price thats way lower than other cards on the auction. See that's yall problem yall want to control people. I want to sell my player . 


    Hey, I'm just trying to give you some advice on why people aren't buying the player. It's up to you on what you want to do with your players, but the logic I'm trying to relay to you is that there are other items and sets out there that can help players get higher power players with higher overalls, so it's unlikely anyone is willing to purchase those older program items unless they just want to complete a set for Team of the Week. There's players with better stats at lower prices, so it's not that we're restricting you from selling that player, it's just that it doesn't look like nobody wants to purchase the player at that price. You'll have to keep lowering the price until someone finds value in purchasing the player at that price.

    The auction house is still functioning as a free market where players dictate the prices, it's just not a player to player transaction. The items go into a holding block with some criteria to help facilitate transactions. The team will update price floors and ceilings throughout the season, but in this case the item isn't selling because of an auction house mechanic, but rather no demand from others willing to bid on it. 

  • Lilawah's avatar
    Lilawah
    6 years ago

    Yeah because you guys put restrictions on AH . I would of put Edelman up for at least 65k or higher as buy now price but noooo it doesnt work and they never sell . 

  • I hear you, lilwah. Blueberry does make a good point about pricing of elites at over 100k when we can get diamond players in that price range. My point is that I can't get even 89 elites to sell for just 999 tokens or less despite most players asking 120k or more for the same player but that's beside the point. My point is that elite players aren't selling no matter how low we price them. I put several 89 elites up for just 1000 tokens several times for as long as 72 hours and not one sale. I even tried asking just 750 tokens as a test. No sale. Am currently trying to sell an 89 elite for 999 tokens. Will let you know of he or any of my other elites sell. But based on my experiences over the last few weeks I doubt any of my elites will sell, which, based on my auction experienced last season and this season and the testimony of other players unable to sell elites for even 250 tokend is highly unusual. 89 OVR elites should be selling quickly priced at just 1000 tokens, but I haven't sold a single player in at least three weeks which is about exactly the same time that season mode events stopped awarding diamond players. Prior to this weird change I was awarded at least one diamond player at least every other win which was great. Then suddenly, no diamond players awarded. At all. And I have now played through almost four seasons without being awarded a single diamond player after a win. Obviously team Madden made changes both to the auction house and to seasons mode and it strikes me as both unjust and greedy because it all seems meant to force us to spend money to progress and let me tell you I have already spent plenty this season and last. Bottom line is that the evidence seems to indicate changes made to MM to keep us from progressing as quickly as before and I don't appreciate it one bit. I have read of players putting 89 OVR elites up for sale for just 250 tokens and getting no sales. And we are told that no changes have been made. Seriously? If an 89 OVR elite won't sell for 999 or even just 250 tokens, something is wrong and I point the finger at EA's Madden team. And it hurts me to say it because I am a huge Madden fan from way back in the day and have loved MM and supported it with cash purchases. After reading a plethora of MM player testimony to the effect that elites aren't selling at any price and experiencing this phenomenon for myself, I have to conclude that there is indeed an issue with the auction house and I would sure appreciate it if EA would make positive corrective adjustments so that we can sell our elite players again. 

  •  So I took what you said about which elite players are in demand and which aren't. I posted several new Totd elites at very reasonable prices, from 30% less than the mean or a lot more for 12 hours and not a single one sold. So I have re-priced my Totd elites at half-price or less and put them up at auction again. If they don't sell at these prices, I will reduce their price by another 25%. If they don't sell then, I have to conclude that there is an issue with the auction house. I can't sell Totd, RTTD and other elites at ANY price and this has been going on for weeks. How low do I have to price an 89 or 88 OVR Totd elite to get it to sell? I am already asking well less than the mean or mode prices and zero sales. What did you do, Lucy? (To quote Dezi Arnez in I Love Lucy) I honestly feel like there is an issue with the auction house and I would really like it if EA would fix it. Please. Thanks for your help in navigating this problem. - Michael 

  • michaelkottler's avatar
    michaelkottler
    6 years ago

    I am writing to report that none of my Totd high OVR elites sold, per my pervious post. I have since tried selling these 88 and 89 OVR Totd players for just 19999 and have not sold a single player so far. I will next reduce their prices to 10,000 tokens, then 5000.then 2500, then 1000 then 500 just to prove the point that elite players are not selling. And I'd appreciate some feedback here because this is becoming frustrating. In two seasons of play I never had issues selling elites at any point during the season and now I can't sell a single elite of whatever type including Totd at any price. So please, chime in with some comment because I am feeling frustrated and disappointed. 

  • Lilawah's avatar
    Lilawah
    6 years ago
    @michaelkottler This is most trending topic and still ain't changing nothing. Its ridiculous next season better be different. Plus we rated yall the worst game of the year if I was not mistaken.
  • EA_Blueberry's avatar
    EA_Blueberry
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    6 years ago

    @michaelkottler 

    Do you think players would be willing to spend coin on the current program players if they're able to get them from the Madden Today event and Cinco de Mayo event? Players usually buy more players when they're able to see what they can get out of the whole Team of the Decade program. I'm confident you'll have more luck in the coming weeks. 

  • I do believe that players are willing to spend tokens on 89 OVR elites priced low especially if the elites are in an in demand program like ToTD. In five weeks I have sold just one 89 OVR Totd player for 16k. The mode asking price for that player was 120k, which is of course way too much so besides the point. My point is that based on my experiences last season and this season, high OVR elites DO sell when priced to do so. But I have had 89 OVR in-demand elites on auction for just 750 tokens for 72 hours at a time and not one sale. And the fact that only one of the many 89 OVR ToTD elites I put up for sale at super-low prices, as low as 1000 tokens, sold, for 16k, strikes me as quite odd indeed. It is as though most elite auction posts aren't being posted for other players to bid on. That would explain quite a few peculiar auction phenomenon that my MM friends have observed this season. Last season, zero issues selling players all season long. This season, starting about five weeks ago, a major wave of unsellable elites. Obviously something is afoot. The question is, is it truly a totally player-demand driven market, or is there a middle-person (aka bot) involved? The first is what I'd prefer to believe. The 2nd is what several unusual or statistically significant AH phenomenon suggests. My theory is that the AH is market-driven but in a very controlled way and for over a month one control seems to have been making elites unsellable at least 90% of the time if not more. A related issue is, why do a vast majority of players, based on what we are shown, ask over 100k for elite players when a diamond player can be purchased for the same price? Are all the players posting elite players for 130k just out of their minds? Because a quick glance at the AH reveals that elite players are posted for ridiculous amounts that no one would ever possibly pay. This begs the question as to WHY a majority of elites are posted for over 100k. And one possible answer is that they aren't being posted for those pie-in-the-sky amounts but rather, an AH bot is showing posts of players at greatly inflated prices for nefarious goals including trying to drive the price of elites up artificially so that none will be sold. But it doesn't matter bcuz you can post an 89 OVR elite for just 150 tokens and that's not going to sell either. So it sure seems like there is a power interfering with normal buying and selling of elites. The bottom line is that on five weeks I have sold just one elite player for 16k despite endlessly posting 89 OVR elites for sale at either greatly reduced or giveaway prices with zero sales so how did that one elite sell when the same player for just 750 tokens never sold? So many questionable phenomenon but no clear evidence as to how and why, just the EA claim that it's all demand driven versus player testimonials indicating that there is an intermediary at work in the AH and I would love to know the actual truth. 

  • michaelkottler's avatar
    michaelkottler
    6 years ago

    I would like to add that as an experiment I placed an 89 OVR elite for sale at auction for just 250 tokens for 72 hours several times and not even a bid much less a sale. Why would someone not buy an 89 elite for 250 tokens when it's worth it just to exchange for player training points? As stated previously, in five weeks of trying to sell even ToTD elites at very low prices I sold just one for 16k which was about 1/9 the mean asking price for the same player. I have placed 89 OVR ToTD elites up for sale in the AH for giveaway prices of just a few hundred tokens and not sold  a single one despite how very in-demand they are right now. These experiences in not being able to sell elites at any price beginning about six weeks ago plus the testimony of other players I've read online or heard in-person really seem to indicate a problem with the AH and I would sure love to hear feedback from other players or from an EA representative regarding the ongoing phenomenon of unsellable elites. There are many anomalies that don't make sense, like seeing elites proffered at ridiculously high prices, like 160k. When I look up an elite player on AH I see scores of players all selling the same player for pretty much the exact same ridiculously high price, always 100k tokens or much more. These posts can't possible all be real because how can that many players be so put of touch with pricing? Any player with even a few weeks experience knows darn well that an 86 ovr elite is not going to sell for 110k tokens yet search for elites and you will find 100s of not 1000s of listing of high over elites from 100l to 160k.I know from experimenting with posting elites at those prices for 72 hours at a time that they aren't selling and the AH bot sure isn't buying them. Why then are there sooo many posts from players asking 150000 tokens for elite players? Surely there are not that many foolish players. Why then are almost ALL elites listed on the AH priced so ridiculously high? Is it possible that these posts are not real but are instead created by the AH bot to ensure that no one will price their elites at reasonable prices? Or worse, are these posts created and posted instead of the actual posts to prevent any or very few elites from selling? I would sure appreciate a prompt informative reply from someone in the know who can explain to me why elites for sale at 150l tokens are the norm rather than the exception. The way things are going just do not make sense at all and again, am informative reply to my queries here sure would be appreciated bcuz the longer this goes on the more convinced I am that, as many experienced players have claimed in posts on EA Help, Reddit and elsewhere, the AH is a totally rigged system only partially driven by player demand and the rest is artificial BS. Thoughts? 

  • EA_Blueberry's avatar
    EA_Blueberry
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    6 years ago

    @Lilawah 

    Hey he gave me a shoutout! 🙂 

    A lot of great points in that video, watched it all the way through. I don't know about getting rid of Power but I have seen some confusion around it, so maybe there can be more clarification around that or enhancements. Fully agree with Draft Champions though, love it and hope it stays around as a base feature. I'll continue to let the Madden Mobile team know what conversations are taking place here on the forums. I've seen feedback about the auction house throughout the year on how difficult it can be to sell items and the content creator in that video somewhat identified why with some players like Flashbacks becoming obsolete. Because of the pace of these programs coming out, a 97 OVR player isn't bad statistically, however if a 98 OVR player has much more Power it makes more sense for players to go after newer program players to achieve the highest tier items which results in some lack of demand for those older program items on the auction house. I hope that brings more clarity to the situation, but I do hear all of your concerns around how this is impacting your ability to sell items on the AH. Feedback diligently noted!

  • Appreciate your thoughtful comments. Would like to point out the bizarre phenomenon of the AH overflowing with mass postings of elite players priced ridiculously high. Search virtually any elite and you will be met with walls of the same player priced at ludicrously high amounts. Even newbies but especially experienced players reviewing  the endless listing of elites priced at well over 100k tokens is going to suspect something fishy is going on because no actual player interested in selling his or her elite is going to price it at, say, 120k, yet that is the norm rather than the exception. This obvious inflation of elite players coupled with elites becoming virtually unsellable about six weeks ago and the recent admission of an EA representative that, indeed, the AH is assisted (by a bot, app, program) leads one to the conclusion that team MM decided to make elites no longer buy able or sellable on the AH. In six weeks I have sold just one 89 OVR ToTD elite at a shockingly high 16k. Just one player out of scores I put up for sale at a variety of prices from waaay less than the obviously intentionally inflated prices to rock-bottom giveaway prices and as I mentioned, sold just one. I even placed 89 OVR elites for sale at just 250 tokens, a bargain for those wishing to increase player/team power, for 72 hours at a time several times and not one of them sold. But the real proof of automated lake postings at hyper-inflated prices are the endless listings of the same elite at insanely high prices. Search virtually any elite and you will be met with scores if not 100s of postings of that same player for an insanely high price that varies by only 10 to 20%. Clearly no real player expects to receive 135k for an elite player. Maybe a few megalomaniacs or others with unreasonable expectations, but for 100k+ token elites to become the new norm and en masse to the point where you rarely if ever even see a realistic price for an elite couples with the phenomenon of virtually unsellable elites even at nominal prices clearly indicates that team MM does not want us freely buying or selling elites. Aside from the obvious motivation of greed, are there are other reasons for this blatant price manipulation and taking-away of the ability to freely buy and sell elites? 

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