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Doesn't matter if this was RCE, server side, or rootkit on compromised PCs. Destroyer showed he can do both. Month ago he has sent 30+ bots after HisWattson etc.(so server side), now he rootkited (guessing) ALGS's PCs.
Remember when Titanfall servers got hacked? Fixing took so long that hardly anyone returned leading to the game dying.
So be careful what you wish for in terms of EA addressing the situation or taking action 😉
https://www.gamesradar.com/the-titanfall-2-devs-have-quietly-fixed-the-beloved-fps-and-fans-are-convinced-that-its-the-start-of-something-bigger/
- Midnight97462 years agoHero+
This whole thing is an absolute embarrassment to EA, Respawn, and Apex.
Instead of shrugging their shoulders, EA/Respawn should of taken the game offline until further investigations, which would of determined if the game was safe to play, and to patch out any issues that they come across. (Which, they should of taken action months ago, especially when the hacker was giving pros a bunch of packs, and was even opening it on their accounts). This should of been a MASSIVE red flag that it needed to be looked into.
Also, from what I can tell, understand, and gather, Gen really didn't notice they had aimbot, and I didn't even notice they had knocked a different player until I saw the one who I thought they knocked still shooting at Gen, which at that moment the cheat GUI popped up, and Gen had to leave.
Hal on the other hand, noticed the hack, told his team, and yet stayed in the match and kept playing despite being told to disconnect. A few of the other players were even shot down by Hal while the aimbot was active by the remote hack. This to me is still considered to be cheating even though Hal didn't install the cheats.
Also, why wasn't the match ended the MOMENT the hacks were discovered? Why was it allowed to keep on being played out? The ALGS Twitter had announced afterwards that they're postponing the event due to the tournament's integrity. WHERE was that concern when Gen unknowingly had aimbotted another, and found out they had wall hacks too? The event should of been instantly ended right then and there, especially when it became clear that it wasn't Gen's fault.
I really hope they fix the game, get a better anti-cheat, and perma ban Hal for using cheats they knew they suddenly had, and for refusing to maintain the game's fairness and integrity by staying in the match, but I won't hold my breath.
For those of you who think Hal shouldn't be banned, he literally shot players down after staying in the match, which was after saying he "just won't shoot". He understood he was given cheats, and yet didn't do anything to stop them from being used like how Gen did. This should NOT be overlooked.
If I was Hal, I would of instantly ALT + F4'ed without hesitating, told my team I got hacked, and notified the admins. NOT stay and abuse the cheats.- Asmodeus5662 years agoHero+
- hayhor2 years agoHero@Asmodeus566 Thank you. I've watched this and it's nice to get an expert's perspective.
- 2 years ago
Hal did this to stop the event so Respawn has to do something. After Gen was hacked he even said that if this happens to him. If Gen didn't leave the match, they maybe won the game. So for me Hal didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't wanted to play duo and just wants to end this farce. The matches doesnt even count so why play it then when everyone is infected?
- Midnight97462 years agoHero+
@Zero_KupoIf Gen didn't leave the match once he became aware that he had remote cheats enabled, then I would say he should be perma banned too, as he would be considered cheating by using the cheats.
With that being said, Hal DID do something wrong. If he only shot at the players near the bridge, went "that's not right", and then notified the admins while leaving the match, I would of agree that he "didn't do anything wrong". But he didn't, he stayed and was shooting at other players while he was still being forced to lock onto them, not to mention that he told his team that "he just won't shoot", and still continued to shoot at other players.
If playing with a cheater on your team over and over again intentionally is considered cheating, then using their remote cheats should also be considered cheating.
- Hal intentionally used the remote cheats when he continued to shoot at other teams, knowing he was being affected by remote cheats. Not only that, he refused to leave the match by telling his team he was staying, and he refused to stop shooting, like he said he would. This is disgraceful behavior.
- Gen unintentionally used the remote cheats and left with very little hesitation when he found out that he suddenly had them. It could be argued that Gen installed them himself and was cheating too, but I don't think he was, at least it doesn't seem like it to me. In the ALGS, Gen knocked down a Bloodhound off screen and thought it was the player he was shooting at. A few moments later the cheat GUI popped up and Gen backed up, told his team, put his hands in the air, and left when told to. I didn't know who Gen was until yesterday, but I have newfound respect for a stranger.
I'll also say this again, Gen suddenly having cheats should of been what had ended the ALGS match as any instance of cheating ruins the integrity and fairness of the game. Why was the match allowed to continue after cheating was reported?
Edited 1: After the ALGS match, Hal went to go into ranked, and got banned on the spot. Despite this, (and I just found out about this tweet), he's streaming on an alt while his main account is banned. https://twitter.com/ImperialHal/status/1770151571558461601 If you're banned, (be it your fault or not), and you alt, that's called ban evading.
Edited 2: Going over the videos again, did anyone else notice that Gen's inputs switched from controller, to MNK, then back to controller? Feels a little weird to do on your own intentionally, which seems to suggest that this is a PC issue, (if anything), as console doesn't have MNK support.
Hal also didn't get the chat box going off, saying it was a hack either, nor did he had any indicator of what his inputs were. I'm unsure if we can hide the buttons from the HUD, but that just seems odd. The only indication of input, (besides knowing he switched to a controller), is the "L to toggle zoom" prompt. It makes me wonder if his input switched to, and if that matters and/or plays a role.
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