The official Matchmaking blog post
Here’s the most awaited blog post about matchmaking https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/matchmaking-2023
Forum Discussion
I have no idea if the new sbmm system is in place or not, but if it is, then it's not working on consoles on the Sydney servers, i returned after a few seasons off, i do well in 2 games, the other last few games i am loosing right off the bat, then i see why, nearly every single player has been diamonds, masters or even Preds, even got killed by 4k dmg badges and 20 bombs, most of them have over 10k kills each. The team i get given are basically new with only a hundred or so kills or less.
@KyldenarI looked at your types and am unsure where I fit into that. I'm slightly above average and play the game almost daily just because I enjoy it.
I do enjoy that you have been complaining for a long time the game lacks PvE and your entire theory leads to that being the only answer. Way to lead the audience 🤣
- @hayhor You can have a PvP only game that still retains a casual audience, but it requires some catering to Type 5s. This game isn't doing that.
If you're not going to cater the PvP to Type 5s, then you have to add a cooperative PvE element to the game to help retain them. Until they announced they were killing all PvE development, I thought they were headed that way with a Frontier Defense like mode or game for a Revolution against the Syndicate (as that seems to be what the lore is hinting at, aka Titan War 2) but now...
Well, the churn is just going to get worse. Which is a shame because the movement and gunplay is on point, it's just everything else that is wrong. - @Kyldenar I'm also disappointed in the lack of a single player game.
I disagree that this churn is killing the game though. They hit the most concurrent users ever on at the same time to start the season.
Will the game die eventually? Yes it will but it will be a number of factors combined. MM, bad new content and another game being the main factors. @hayhorHow many of those "concurrent users" are returning Type 3s, that think, "This will be my season to go PRO" until reality, once again, slaps them in the face? Also, I bet a lot are rank/skin farming accounts for selling on places like eBay (which these days, is the TOP thing
goodGoogle shows me when I search Apex Legends to find the forums). Or just Smurf accounts.- @Kyldenar
"the churn is just going to get worse. Which is a shame because the movement and gunplay is on point..."
I don't often find myself at odds with your opinions, but I've said before and I'll say again, I play this game in spite of its weapon mechanics, not because of them. I think they are almost universally worthless. Assuming that every player has, or will develop over time, reasonable ability to aim, then what you STILL have with this game's weapon sandbox is rock, scissors, paper. Did I just kill that guy because of my awesome gun skills? Nope, I had a zero-recoil mid-range gun and he had an EVA and we were 30 meters apart. The only "fair" gun fight in this game is if the other four squaddies are away somewhere and the two left duking it out have the same gun with the same attachments.*
*place holder for when someone responds with "oh, recon, attachments don't matter." - @reconzero I had a much longer, more filled out post for you, but the forum seems to have eaten it and I got to get back to work shortly, so I will sum up as, "I would expect a shotgun with shot to lose at 30 meters vs a SMG or battle rifle." And I generally like the guns in Titanfall/Apex because with my real world gun experience, they behave and work like I would expect. 🙂
@hayhor Well, at least we can agree on the PvE thing. I still think Apex could benefit from something like Frontier Defense (maybe in reverse, instead of defending, attacking), cooperative, 3 or 4 player squads, fighting the Syndicate in Glorious Revolution!
Even get people that play that to still hop into BR every once in a while by allowing materials gathered in BR but not used (which now you gather for everyone which is awesome) to carry into the next of these PvE matches. - @reconzero You are correct here. That is why some, including myself don't think that br is good measure for "fair" fps. We have Valorant for that, sort of, but, in terms of weapons and variety it makes things quite boring. Point is, again, what makes a good player is being able to frag with any weapon in spite of what the opponent has in his kit. Fair? No. Skilled when you win with less than your opponent? Absolutely. sbmm breaks this to some extent tho.....so yeah in light of that the better weapon now matters a lot more that it should.
