Here’s the most awaited blog post about matchmaking https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/matchmaking-2023

@Cheese9ManI stopped making comments on this forum because the matchmaking data I was sharing wasn’t cared for by the majority of the forum community— but I feel inclined to comment here on this matter:1) HUGE props to Respawn for even having a convo on matchmaking. Like seriously, I respect this so much. Lack of communication is a literal middle finger to the community, so this is appropriate and appreciated.2) Parts of this are— unfortunately, disingenuous.What parts? These:“We don’t purposefully put you in harder matches to slow you down if you’re winning a lot, nor do we intentionally put you in easier matches because you’re on a losing streak.”By designing their “dynamic matchmaking rating system” that is LITERALLY EXACTLY what they do. They 100% punish people for doing well, even in one single game. The algorithm reads your 3 kill 1st place win and the next game you are playing with people significantly above your skill level. Next disingenuous statement:“Either way, this is the system accounting for your recent changes in skill. This process tends to be slow, so you should only feel these changes from long streaks.”This is true for many accounts but definitely not for all. I have literally studied this across 20+ accounts and shared my findings (something I’m sure Respawn wasn’t betting on) and the results prove this to be untrue.Accounts with a lot of data that show that a player is above average do NOT have slow mobility down the matchmaking ladder. Win a game with just 2 kills and above 50% placement and the next match is right back to the top of the MMR ladder. I’ve literally tested this almost every single day for the past 2 years so I am going to need a PhD level argument/rationale to convince me otherwise.I guess I’m happier that they are addressing MM, but tightening of matchmaking in pubs for no reward is an ABSOLUTELY bad thing. People need to be rewarded for their proficiency, EVEN IN PUBS.Tighter matchmaking means more people playing their doppelgänger team at any given time, which results in outcomes being more similar for people, regardless of skill.Players who are more proficient should have better outcomes (wins, etc) in pubs. I’ll say that again: Preds (by virtue of their proficiency) deserve to beat players of my skill level in pubs. Similarly, Diamond-level players should have better outcomes than gold-level players.Tighter matchmaking and everyone breaking even feels super forced, curated, and exhausting.But the needs of the many outweigh what’s actually fair. So it is what it is. We should probably just commit fully at this point and have a system that does in-game adjustments for players performing too well or too poorly. So players on a hot streak should have their bullet damage decreased and their movement slowed slightly. We need to push for a system that results in uniform outcomes for all players.

@HappyHourSumwur Agreed. Seems broken on a fundamental level. Either that, or the pros have figured out a way to game the system.MM is broken both in BR and in Mixtape modes.Not even joking, keep having games where the MM puts a bunch of randoms together who can't even get more than 500 damage each against two full stacks of clubs. Games are going back to 50-10 blowouts again.Same with BR, where I get matched with TimTheTTVGawd0057Wraith who has more kills than I have damage on my entire account. Good stuff.

What i’m taking away from the article is that cradling lower skilled players to the detriment of higher skilled players is all that presently matters if not in a premade.Also, no concrete dates have been mentioned other than “early 2023” which means nothing when so many broken promises seems to be a reoccurrence with Respawn.

@Cro_PitttThat’s also how i’m reading it, which means if I perform well, i’ll be matched against preds, all the while having two ball in chain teammates.How did they think this would be a winning formula is beyond me, maybe because they assume everyone would play as a premade? Give me solos pls 🤣

The official Matchmaking blog post

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DaDeDimson
2 years ago
@Lord_Scorpion34 Been saying this for a couple years now
CCbathwater
2 years ago
I know I'm #1 toxic Lifeline EU, but let's have a love story for a change. This Loba was so awesome. She was this rare teammate who's got your back, fights with you, covers you, and just has general game sense.
I noticed early on that she had my back, covering me when (wasting my time) shielding and so forth. I just started playing around her as it would make it easier for me (and her), if we held hands. I might have declared my love for her and told her that I love her, and sung a little song of Loba being my baby. Unfortunately she was not on my immediate team, so she naturally missed all of it. sadge
In other news, then I've had a whole bunch of unwanted PC'ers in my lobbies, and a lobby where I was the sole console player. I naturally made sure they knew what I expected of them, with their cheats, MnK, and 144hz screens.
GG Respawn
CCbathwater
2 years ago
Well, you know... okay then. 🤔 That was a new one. MM is trying hard matching people up.
Lv1sampai500
2 years ago
Iam stuck at silver with 0.4 KAD and why my enemy far above my rank? diamond and sometimes predator squad, My teammate always running without helping me.
Sonvekk
2 years ago
@Lv1sampai500 to me it seems like the ranking system is random. And the amount of lp gain only affects your ranking. For example if your team manages to get 200 points but your teammates are diamond and you're plat, those 200 goes towards their diamond and you know you get yours, its like self progress ranking system with random ranking tiers. Which is fine but random ranking tiers in the matchmaking is what makes it backfire cause you can get those random opponents who were pred last season and aiming for it now. I hit masters this season and it seemed too easy and less meaningful so there's definitely something wrong with the ranking system.
Kyldenar
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@CCbathwater wrote:
Well, you know... okay then. 🤔 That was a new one. MM is trying hard matching people up.
This image tells us nothing other than apparently MM is fine as long as you win...?
CCbathwater
2 years ago
@Kyldenar The message Octane wrote me in game chat?
drevinum9
2 years ago
@CCbathwater MM fine as long as they say I love you?
drevinum9
2 years ago
I don't wanna brag but when I read the pre patch notes I could already then tell this season not gonna turn out good and most of the issues so far experienced have come true. Worst mistake they could have ever made in my opinion with this patch. (season 17)

I have made many posts now in different forums and well I gave my shot at feedback and I did give the game a true honest chance but nah it is garbage. Currently ranked Plat 1 and pre season 17 I only had time to rank to plat 4 and that was hard and took effort. Now I achieved plat 1 way faster like childish easy barely even had to give any effort. I have gained no sense of achievement or even any sense on how I am improving my skills because the current system hides it.....
drevinum9
2 years ago
unfortunate for me and Apex/Respawn/EA ranked and its challenging rank system and awarding rank system was before this season 17 the best rank system out there in any game but this season 17 has taken a dive into the garbage collector

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