Re: A retrospective on the paths of 2042 compared to BF4

@UP_LordPlumber
exactly
Back in BF4, the trends were battlepacks and tablet PCs and we know how they were the two design related weaknesses of BF4.

Over the years the trends managed to get  more intrusive, to the point where 2042 was allegedly being developed as a totally different game that had to course-correct midway in the development and then post launch.

I really hope this is the last time we will see that

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@TG_Maveric2022 wrote:

@UP_LordPlumber
exactly
Back in BF4, the trends were battlepacks and tablet PCs and we know how they were the two design related weaknesses of BF4.

Over the years the trends managed to get  more intrusive, to the point where 2042 was allegedly being developed as a totally different game that had to course-correct midway in the development and then post launch.

I really hope this is the last time we will see that

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Narrator: It wasn't

@TG_Maveric2022Dice will probably not ditch the live-service system - I think they already confirmed the next game would be a live-service game.

At least they should ditch the weekly missions and just have BP-progression through XP. This would make more people play the game as intended and less players running around, doing all kinds of 'other things'.

BF4 had missions (ribbons) as well, but they didn't create 10(?) new missions every week, that people more or less had to complete for progressing a battle-pass.

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@cso7777 wrote:

@TG_Maveric2022Dice will probably not ditch the live-service system - I think they already confirmed the next game would be a live-service game.

At least they should ditch the weekly missions and just have BP-progression through XP. This would make more people play the game as intended and less players running around, doing all kinds of 'other things'.

BF4 had missions (ribbons) as well, but they didn't create 10(?) new missions every week, that people more or less had to complete for progressing a battle-pass.

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Yep, I'm all for missions that change up gameplay to get people out of their ruts though. I do miss the challenges for unlocking weapons that was more than x-kills. Although I guess we'd be back to where we were with dedicated unlock servers to do it (like for the bow and arrow in BF4 or Camo unlock servers). 

It is pretty hard to have the happy medium balance that is rewarding challenge, but not so annoying or pronounced that then 90% of the playerbase is using sniper rifles or just throwing grenades or whatever. Ultimately I'm not opposed to getting BP progression both ways, the mission completitons are a nice carrot to check off for a boost while hopefully getting enough XP during matches to keep it moving. Although, I think many can agree that the XP gain system is lacking compared to previous BF entries (assist count as kill, XP for damage done, destroy vehicle assists are still broken last I checked, soflam/spotting XP is iffy, etc)