Two things:
1. I believe they're adding more specialists so I don't believe we'll be locked into playing as just Maria. Same with the other Specialists. I think their will be variety.
2. This whole customization thing just has me shaking my head. I get why EA wants it (for cash) and people like it but seriously.....it's a first person game. You rarely see the uniforms in 3rd person mode like you do in Fortnite. Customization means nothing to me.
@DingoKillr wrote:
@TickTack121like you ignore facts.
Like in BF2042 the classes Assault, Engineer, Recon and Support exist.
Specialist are sub-classes that we have had in past BF as traits since BF2142.
No, they are Not and it is also Not True, although you are repeating this all the Time.
Weapons previously locked to classes and sometimes even factions, Now all restrictions are gone.
Gadgets previously locked to classes and restricted combinations, Now all restrictions are gone, they are only Limited to some visual apppearance.
This specialists have absolutely nothing in common with the Previous system. How can you ignore that? It is also not sub-classes, it is just the specialists with their Unique perks.
Let me get this right.....
People don't want to play as a 'specialist' that has a Medic gadget and trait, instead they want to 'specialise' as a Medic that has a Medic gadget and perks?
Have I got this correct?
Now customisation, after BF1, people wanted more customisation but BFV was to much or the 'wrong kind' but BF2042 is to little, to much AND the wrong kind all at the same time, at least that's how it feels here......
I like this one best I think, it's not that I don't want to play as a woman, I just want to be able to choose to play as a man all the time, it's called 'equality. One assumes therefore, that if that choice is not available, 50% of all specialists should be wimmin correct?
@BtheReaper49 This is my thinking too - we're bound to get more medic specialists as 2042 progresses, same as with the other ones.
And I reckon point #2 is why we seem to be getting third person takedowns. People will want to look fancy while they shank folks.
@SirBobdk wrote:
@Trokey66
I think it's more about all weapons now being available to all specialists.
Not sure if that is a good idea, but that's just my opinion.
Whether it is called classes or specialists is probably less important.
My concern aswell. Weapons and Gadgets free for all. I also dont like that stupid and lame characters, but Not a Game breaker. Customization in BFV was one of the Good Things in that game, Not the Clown Skins, but the system.
@TickTack121 wrote:
@DingoKillr wrote:
@TickTack121like you ignore facts.
Like in BF2042 the classes Assault, Engineer, Recon and Support exist.
Specialist are sub-classes that we have had in past BF as traits since BF2142.No, they are Not and it is also Not True, although you are repeating this all the Time.
Weapons previously locked to classes and sometimes even factions, Now all restrictions are gone.
Gadgets previously locked to classes and restricted combinations, Now all restrictions are gone, they are only Limited to some visual apppearance.
This specialists have absolutely nothing in common with the Previous system. How can you ignore that? It is also not sub-classes, it is just the specialists with their Unique perks.
Oh look a Class
Nothing like we had in the past.
@DingoKillr I dont want to be unfriendly, because i have to Repeat myself again. So i will say it once again and Stop that Conversation After this.
This is Not the same. The medic in BFV was Not able to Select every Gadget and Weapon in the Game. There were Weapon and Gadget restrictions, now there are no restrictions at all.
@TickTack121 wrote:@DingoKillr I dont want to be unfriendly, because i have to Repeat myself again. So i will say it once again and Stop that Conversation After this.
This is Not the same. The medic in BFV was Not able to Select every Gadget and Weapon in the Game. There were Weapon and Gadget restrictions, now there are no restrictions at all.
Interesting first you tell me I am wrong about classes and traits, now you want to finish the conversation.
There are still gadget restriction, just not as many as before.
@ElliotLH wrote:@BtheReaper49This is my thinking too - we're bound to get more medic specialists as 2042 progresses, same as with the other ones.
Are we really getting more medic specialists?
Maria Falck is classified as support class, I more likely expect some other support class specialists that maybe hack doors on distance and resupply maybe specialist gadgets.
Why have a second medic centered support specialist?
@kregora wrote:
@ElliotLH wrote:@BtheReaper49This is my thinking too - we're bound to get more medic specialists as 2042 progresses, same as with the other ones.
Are we really getting more medic specialists?
Maria Falck is classified as support class, I more likely expect some other support class specialists that maybe hack doors on distance and resupply maybe specialist gadgets.
Why have a second medic centered support specialist?
Leaks are saying that one specialist will be a medic and Support character aswell. Something about reviving, ammo and Armor.
@Trokey66 wrote:
@SirBobdkThat would be my understanding as well although I think the likelihood of that happening would be rare.
Of greater concern to me is the potential scarcity of 'support' gadgets such as ammo, health, repairs or spotting in favour of lethal gadgets as players chase KD.
Well luckily most of the Time those Players are at least Not annoying in the Enemy Team. Yesterday some Tank Driver tried to tell everyone in the chat how Good he is, Sadly he Destroyer the whole Game for the Team, because he Farmed from the Base.
But i guess we wont have much teamplay, if not playing with friends.
@DingoKillr wrote:
@SirBobdkThen they will need someone outside the squad to heal and supply ammo.
Agree, but you also know the player base. It is not always logical. 🤣
Everyone plays the same class and ask in the chat why no one plays medic / support🤔
So even now people still cannot appreciate the liberation of the weapons from the class system?
The 2042 medic lady is even pretty cool imho, a much better take than BFV's poster cyborg.
@SirBobdk wrote:
@DingoKillr wrote:
@SirBobdkThen they will need someone outside the squad to heal and supply ammo.Agree, but you also know the player base. It is not always logical. 🤣
Everyone plays the same class and ask in the chat why no one plays medic / support🤔
In past games many would not switch due to ranking up their gun or that special gadget. Now it may not be much of an issue.
I am hoping that we get an universal heal gadget that would allow my squad to be all wingsuits.
@kregora wrote:
@ElliotLH wrote:
@BtheReaper49This is my thinking too - we're bound to get more medic specialists as 2042 progresses, same as with the other ones.
Are we really getting more medic specialists?
Maria Falck is classified as support class, I more likely expect some other support class specialists that maybe hack doors on distance and resupply maybe specialist gadgets.
Why have a second medic centered support specialist?
@kregora I can just see Dice "recycling" some roles to handle things like different genders. It was such a hot topic in BFV that I doubt they'd want a repeat. Remains to be seen of course.
@DingoKillr wrote:
@SirBobdk wrote:
@DingoKillr wrote:
@SirBobdkThen they will need someone outside the squad to heal and supply ammo.Agree, but you also know the player base. It is not always logical. 🤣
Everyone plays the same class and ask in the chat why no one plays medic / support🤔In past games many would not switch due to ranking up their gun or that special gadget. Now it may not be much of an issue.
I am hoping that we get an universal heal gadget that would allow my squad to be all wingsuits.
Indeed, one of my most usual peeve in BF games so far is having the wrong weapon for the situation because I needed to use a particular gadget that belongs to that class (usually the spotting gadgets or the repair tool)
That or because I needed to level a gun but the class did not worked well for the situation.
This is why what 2042 is trying to do is a huge quality of life breakthrough for me.
If I have to be a cool granny to have that flexibility, so be it. (Even though grannies are not supposed to be that flexible due to age 😉 )
@UP_HawxxeyeI could prove you wrong but suspect such evidence would get me banned and possibly imprisoned in several countries.....😜
I do agree that all kit weapons and gadgets has some pro's especially in the way you mentioned but I still have concerns over the potential *.
if we can flip gadgets on the fly then lets go full tardy. Let us swap on the fly RPG and Igla. I will never have to worry about air or ground vehicles again. 4 in a squad we can lock down outside. Another squad can lock down inside a building with the doom shields and turrets. We no longer need to traverse the map any longer.
@Trokey66 wrote:@UP_HawxxeyeI could prove you wrong but suspect such evidence would get me banned and possibly imprisoned in several countries.....😜
I do agree that all kit weapons and gadgets has some pro's especially in the way you mentioned but I still have concerns over the potential *.
I am sure it can go wrong in one way or another. This is a DICE game after all, But just the prospect of combining recon gadgets with a proper full auto weapon like an assault rifle makes my mouth water a bit.
@ghinavirus wrote:if we can flip gadgets on the fly then lets go full tardy. Let us swap on the fly RPG and Igla. I will never have to worry about air or ground vehicles again. 4 in a squad we can lock down outside. Another squad can lock down inside a building with the doom shields and turrets. We no longer need to traverse the map any longer.
As a vehicle user this rather makes me worry. It was already a nightmare in BFV with Bazookas being all over the place. I fear the vehicles will feel like those in the enemy team there https://archive.org/details/Battlefield_Friends/BFFs+Season+3/S3E13+-+Spawn+Killing.mp4
