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Re: G-84 TGM urgently needs to be updated

@KarshMarsh She's magnificent, fair and balanced.

"It's an effective AA launcher since it only requires a single hit on most air vehicles besides the transport." Truer words have never been spoken.

And she didn't receive any buffs, simply fixes that were two seasons overdue.

14 Replies

  • UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R's avatar
    UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R
    3 years ago
    @UP_LordPlumber It's a feature. By 2042, guided rockets allow explosion molecules to be effective even without touching the target! Mission accomplished.
  • AngrySquid270's avatar
    AngrySquid270
    3 years ago

    @UP_LordPlumber wrote:
    @UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R"Fair" especially when missile flies 10 meters away from you yet still hits nonetheless
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5VqM-duezUc&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE&t=155

    It's been well documented that this goes both ways. 

    G-84 can fly right through a target. Even momentarily blanking the screen.  

    Certainly feels unfair, certainly not ideal, but if it affects both sides I don't know either group can claim this as a point of 'unfairness'.

  • Psubond's avatar
    Psubond
    Legend
    3 years ago

    @UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R wrote:
    @UP_LordPlumberIt's a feature. By 2042, guided rockets allow explosion molecules to be effective even without touching the target! Mission accomplished.

    You now have my interest.

    Please tell me what an explosion molecule is 🤣

  • AngrySquid270's avatar
    AngrySquid270
    3 years ago

    @Man_iLoveFishing wrote:
    @AngrySquid270But it's pretty unfair. One waits only 5 seconds.

    Come on now. I'm sure we each have 10,000+ hours playing Battlefield - do you really need me to list all the pros/* of vehicles vs infantry?

  • Man_iLoveFishing's avatar
    Man_iLoveFishing
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @AngrySquid270Ofc not, but its sweatier to dodge that missile than hitting with one. Also i get much higher penalty/punishment based on a visual lie. There is the difference.

  • Psubond's avatar
    Psubond
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    3 years ago

    @Man_iLoveFishing wrote:

    @AngrySquid270Ofc not, but its sweatier to dodge that missile than hitting with one. Also i get much higher penalty/punishment based on a visual lie. There is the difference.


    I dont think the visual appearance of the missile missing yet it hits is a missile problem (happens the other way too, from attacker perspective it appears that the missile hits but just flys through helo with no detonation).  That appears to be a net code/hit box issue.

    It happens a lot for infantry too (getting shot around corners, unloading a mag into someone etc)

    Pretty sure those things are net code/lag

  • Man_iLoveFishing's avatar
    Man_iLoveFishing
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Psubond Ofc its problem. Net code is to blame. It's same issue dying behind corner but its just one flies 10m by and still hits. Based on that information you calculate your movement and counter measures. Problem is, when they boosted velocity, it goes even further off.
  • Psubond's avatar
    Psubond
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @Man_iLoveFishing and the problem gets even bigger when you can't know from game to game if you need to lead the target , aim at the target or trail the target. there's only one hit box for the helo, but how does one know where to aim with the netcode. before adjusting the missile they need to sort their netcode because it is super inconsistent from game to game in determining where one needs to aim to hit the helo or for the helo pilots how to jink to evade. the server thinks the helo is in one place, the local client thinks it's somewhere else and the delta isn't consistent.


    tl;dr it's a mess
  • Man_iLoveFishing's avatar
    Man_iLoveFishing
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    Best part is, when Liz on my screen misses and suddenly i get shot, i get that t-bag that actually sometimes makes my teeth grind. Feels stupid.

  • YourLocalPIumber's avatar
    YourLocalPIumber
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Man_iLoveFishing I think we can all agree that this is one of those things that should not even exist in the game.

    Same as drum mags and other "impossible to balance gadgets", especially when they're affected by the netcode
  • Psubond's avatar
    Psubond
    Legend
    3 years ago

    @UP_LordPlumber wrote:
    @Man_iLoveFishingI think we can all agree that this is one of those things that should not even exist in the game.

    Same as drum mags and other "impossible to balance gadgets", especially when they're affected by the netcode

    I wouldnt go so far as to say it shouldnt be im game

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