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LlamaWithKatana
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago

Re: Hackfield 2042

@JarskyPlays No. Rao is finally usefull. He already has CD on hacks and radius is not that amazing. Hacking speed is good only point blank and the further the target the longer it takes to hack someone. Hack duration is not THAT long too TBH (I wish it would be longer rly).
I've seen condors just flying above heck/stinger range and obliterate everything with the cannon. Rao is fine. Maybe buff a little bit but in general he is a good spot and good support RN.

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  • JarskyPlays's avatar
    JarskyPlays
    New Ace
    3 years ago

    @LlamaWithKatanadisagree. His hack can be useful without completely breaking Breakthrough. Whats the point in vehicles, if you just have C5 drones and Rao hacking/nullifying anything that moves. The balance is god awful, and im not even a vehicle main, im an infantry one.

    Rao is ridiculous, and absolutely destroys any sort of attack with just 2 of him on the field to cover each side. It makes the game an absolute gimmick how much he can troll the enemy team.
    As it stands it doesnt promote any sort of team or squad play, since Rao can just hack over and over and over and over and over and over, he can just sit there and make all their armor useless.


    At least give some directionality to where the hack is coming from, because right now you have absolutely no idea where on the entire map he is.

  • LlamaWithKatana's avatar
    LlamaWithKatana
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @JarskyPlays you can see the direction of hack incoming. C5 drone is not a thing anymore as drones are slower with the bigger hitbox. I was blown up once since the change but that was on me rly. I wasn't even mad.
    Attackers usually have more than 1 vehicle so you need a lot of Raos to cover everything. Meanwhile Rao can't even kill the heli (hack is one stinger lock on long). You won't have time for second one: either dead or heli pops flares. Transport have self heal, fast flares recharge and hack is very limited in range. It also interrupted by any leaf between Rao and target so pop smoke if you a ground vehicle. And it does require teamwork even with active Rao to bring the vehicle down. Add no CD for attackers on top. Even full Rao squad might be not enough for that.
  • JarskyPlays's avatar
    JarskyPlays
    New Ace
    3 years ago
    @LlamaWithKatana the hint of a direction is so vague its not useful what so ever if youre flying, and flying a transport in particular. Maybe he should have a red light glint like a sniper lense flare or something.

    Honestly, so many attacks are utterly destroyed by just 1-2 Rao's. And no you dont need a lot of Rao's, im specifically talking about Breakthrough...tactical gameplay. Not that 128p conquest garbage of a game where you can just go to another point. You just need 1-2 Rao's hiding in a bush, to hack the main tank and transport heli to completely destroy any attack. You dont get that many vehicles on Breakthrough, especially now that 128p isn't a thing.

    And no Rao's hack isnt 'interrupted by a leaf', they buffed him recently and his hack is extremely forgiving, going through buildings, structures, over crests of hills, etc...Also air don't get smoke, hence suggestion that flares should at least throw off the hack for air, in the same way smoke does for ground vehicles.

    And yes transports have a fast heal, which is interrupted by any sort of damage what soever, but also youll often have squads of Stingers on standby waiting for the hack, if you wait there for more than 2 seconds you're toast in any sort of competitive round what so ever.
  • LlamaWithKatana's avatar
    LlamaWithKatana
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @JarskyPlays it is interrupted pretty easily. Prob play as Rao and see yourself because you clearly have outdated information. And where are those teams with stingers because I don't see those. Prob they all are in your games.
  • JarskyPlays's avatar
    JarskyPlays
    New Ace
    3 years ago
    @LlamaWithKatana I have played as Rao, its 10x easier to use his ability now since they buffed it as I already stated. You previously could fly behind a tree, or the arches on Hourglass, or a pylon, etc...and it would interrupt, not anymore. It's not interrupted easy when most Breakthrough points are in the open.
  • LlamaWithKatana's avatar
    LlamaWithKatana
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @JarskyPlays then it is map issue. Not Rao issue. Rao buff was needed for a long time and RN he is in a good spot. Also nuking those pesky drones. And hack is still interrupted pretty easily. Maybe your Rao is broken but in general I find there are too little Raos in my BT games so I have to be at least one of those. Only thing is I wish there would be more possibilities to use environmental hacks.
  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    3 years ago

    @LlamaWithKatanaexactly
    Almost every vehicle or infantry balance issue has a lot to do with the map design.
    Tanks sniping infantry from safe distances? Map design.
    Infantry having very few places to hide from helicopters? Map design
    etc

  • LlamaWithKatana's avatar
    LlamaWithKatana
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @UP_Hawxxeye well, except plane vs plane balance. It's not about maps XD
    I still think Rao is fine as it is now and doesn't deserve nerf. Compared to some other specialists he deserve buff IMO.
  • emerson1975's avatar
    emerson1975
    3 years ago

    Oh for the love of god here we go again!

    Vehicles do just fine and I know that because we now have a scoreboard!

  • JarskyPlays's avatar
    JarskyPlays
    New Ace
    3 years ago
    @LlamaWithKatana I agree that it is a map issue. The maps are ridiculous in the way of cover. But theyre clearly doing nothing to the map to address the "Air Tanks" vs Infantry, instead they just make the Rao + Stinger meta
  • LlamaWithKatana's avatar
    LlamaWithKatana
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @JarskyPlays Oh I wish to see more of that meta because I have a strong feeling I'm the only one who doing that. Meanwhile planes are keep remain untouchable as it is not even enough time to hack em. And if you try to stinger them they just pop flares and fly away, turn around and repeat from step 1.
    Map updates are on the way (at least Kaleidoscope and Renewal).
  • RMEChief's avatar
    RMEChief
    Legend
    3 years ago

    If you have repairs on Littlebird you are pretty much invincible. 


    Rao+AA is all he really has going for him. He needs to be able to take control of Casper's drone, Rangers, and Boris Turrets.

  • Anobix's avatar
    Anobix
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Adamonic wrote:

    If you have repairs on Littlebird you are pretty much invincible. 


    Rao+AA is all he really has going for him. He needs to be able to take control of Casper's drone, Rangers, and Boris Turrets.

    If only the repair tool was remotely consistent on a littlebird. 

    I ran repairs on a condor one round and a hind in another, and we stayed up the entire round. We got down to the sub-10hp range multiple times, but my repairing through damage kept us up. One of my buddies mains the littlebird so I hop on there to help and try to repair, but getting a consistent repair on the vehicle is darn near impossible as it continues to use your charge/cooldown without doing anything. 

    That said, I also spent a lot of time running Rao+AA, I had many times where I would hack, switch to AA, lock on and shoot, and by the time the rocket got there they had flared. 

  • GrizzGolf's avatar
    GrizzGolf
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @UP_Hawxxeye wrote:

    @LlamaWithKatanaexactly
    Almost every vehicle or infantry balance issue has a lot to do with the map design.
    Tanks sniping infantry from safe distances? Map design.
    Infantry having very few places to hide from helicopters? Map design
    etc

    Map Design makes me mad 

  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @LlamaWithKatana wrote:
    @UP_Hawxxeyewell, except plane vs plane balance. It's not about maps XD
    I still think Rao is fine as it is now and doesn't deserve nerf. Compared to some other specialists he deserve buff IMO.

    True

    The plane vs plane balance is a really  dum-dum situation. They had one side have a more versatile plane that can also function a bit like a helicopter in low risk situations and on the other side a supermaneuverable (yes that is an actual term)  fighter

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