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carsono311
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago

Re: I stopped my pre-ordering plan

@emerson1975The original game is getting made / developed regardless of pre-orders.  It is up-front cost.  So, pre-orders help to pay for that cost once they are processed.

Further, it is a pre-order, so the consumer takes on zero-cost, or risk if you like, until delivery of said-item.  Additionally, a publisher / developer can see and gauge initial interest and pre-order sales to determine go / no-go criteria of follow-on development based on that data.

Are you really going to believe that the initial response to BFV did not affect it's following development or lack thereof?

I think you are willingly putting your head in the sand on this...

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  • lzilchetl's avatar
    lzilchetl
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @carsono311 Well I find it really difficult to believe that a world leading company with a product than brings in close to £1Bn would set a launch date and only then decide if they are going to finish the product by the launch data based on how well the presales go. They may launch with a MVP while they sort issues arising from the Beta testing but non of this is dependent on presales. A smaller company maybe, who has a tight development budget, but not a company with the resources EA and Dice have.
  • emerson1975's avatar
    emerson1975
    5 years ago

    @lzilchetlAm glad you get it

    I don’t understand my self why anyone would pre order solely on marketing claims lol it’s ridiculous for a game that’s 70$

  • carsono311's avatar
    carsono311
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @lzilchetlI agree with you... so I am not sure where you are going with this?  At this point, I am kind of done talking through it... @emerson1975 seems pretty all-in on pre-orders = dumb , which is certainly an opinion that is not entirely unfounded, but it is not universal either.

  • carsono311's avatar
    carsono311
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @lzilchetl I agree with you... so I am not sure what your point here is?

    At this point, I am kind of done with this topic, @emerson1975 seems pretty all-in on pre-order = dumb. I will admit that recent history lends some validity to the argument, but it is still ultimately an opinion and certainly not a universal one.
  • OskooI_007's avatar
    OskooI_007
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    There's only one reason I would pre-order. Which is to get the Midnight skin so I can camp invisible in dark corners and get cheap kills. 😁

    Edit: actually looking closer at the pre-order wording, it appears the stuff in the bottom picture is only pre-order content.

    So I guess you don't even have to pre-order to get the Midnight skin. So yeah, feel free to play the beta and then decide if you want to buy the Ultimate Edition for cheap kills!

  • VOLBANKER_PC's avatar
    VOLBANKER_PC
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @OskooI_007 I hadn’t noticed that Midnight skin before now. That’s bad news for someone like me who dislikes having silly costumes in Battlefield.

    Frankly I am angry at DICE for adding cosmetics, and sad about it. It means Battlefield is no longer the same game, at least for me. Seeing all kinds of stupidly dressed people running around (or rather: ice skating around) just kills all immersion and fun for me.

    I never thought I’d not buy a new Battlefield game, but then again I never thought I should see ridiculous costumes in Battlefield.
  • OskooI_007's avatar
    OskooI_007
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @VOLBANKER_PC I don't mind skins so long as they're done in good taste and don't turn into this.

    I'm more worried about the gameplay. Such as TTK and player movement being too fast with no body weight. And of course bots in multiplayer.

    But you're right, DICE knows exactly what they're doing releasing a pitch black Roze skin in Battlefield for $120. They're cashing in on a cosmetic item that gives a gameplay advantage.

    I imagine after BFV there's a lot of pressure on upper management at DICE to make money in BF2042, otherwise EA could potentially turn DICE into a mobile games studio. I say that because that's where most of the money is now-a-days.

    Hopefully DICE can deliver.

  • gnungo's avatar
    gnungo
    5 years ago

    Bots will kill us no matter what skin we have 😃

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