@Straatford87Then can you atleast make her reapear again on the minimal when she uses the visor ?
It’s allready bad enough that she can see you through walls, completely destroy stealthy flanks and whatnot.
Or create some sort of device that protects you from being spotted, maybe let Irish sentinel create an small emp zone that negate spotting devices.
Her ability is just not counterable, you are spotted 24/7 inside the containership.
Paik is fine as she is, yeah she may have more of an advantage on the new map but on others not so much so just leave her alone for the love of god!
Nerfing everything is just not the answer!
@emerson1975they buffed her, she didnt need buffing. she needs to just go back to normal. Her wallhack is OP as it is. Now she doesnt even show on the minimap when she activates it. Now everyone and their dog is Paik because she always knows where you are, without ever knowing where she might be. May as well just let people with 3rd party wallhack cheats play because that is basically what she is.
At least before the buff you had an idea of where she might be coming from, and with such an OP ability it was fair trade (almost). Now its just downright cheating basically, no different to an actual cheater
@Bolvard
Reverting her changes won't have an affect on the container ship. There's just too many bodies highlighted that its just complete disarry. Her being shown on the minimap or highlighted won't make a difference when there's so many bodies highlighted around her.
A stealth device is something that would counter her but that's going to chew up more resources from the developers and take time to implement. It's probably an idea that could make season 3's classes overhaul as a stealth gadget but what's going to happen it the meantime? Pure havoc.
@emerson1975Are you for Real ?
Having a Wallhack at your disposal whenever you please is a pretty huge advantage in FPS Games.
At this point and how much paik players are arround currently it wouldn’t even matter if you just install a 3th Party Software or playing paik.
Knowing where your Enemy is positioned and located is a basic skillrequirement in order to play good.
Playing paik throws this completely out of the Window by rewarding bad players (as you see in my screenshot above, all paik players) and punishes normal players which is frustrating to say the least.
Get rid of the Ability completely and create a new Gadget for her.
Just GET RID OF IT
@Bolvard I agree. Pro players are just running and gunning as a squad of Paik'. I can't do a damn thing. Smokes don't help. The gun emplacement doesn't help because they can see exactly where to shoot to kill. The only thing that helps is Dozer but Dozer is most bugged specialist right now, his shield could not hurt a fly.
@tom_lookenFirst of all her flying makes noise now you you HEAR it when see lands in the Area around you.
- her grenade doesn’t fly faster than a jet, it can’t even catch up to a chopper, even Tanks at full speed almost outrun the grenade.
- Her hitbox during flying was fixed a long time ago, if you can’t hit her you aim is just bad, I have no problem shooting ducks out of the Air if I see them.
- Sundance has falldmg, if you try to land with mach 3 velocity you pretty much gonna die, I died many times becouse of that when I play her.
To the rocket part: it’s called skill.
If a Sundance can fly correctly and position herself in a good angle to take out an aircraft, it’s just simply deserved.
- You mean dozer shield has no counter ? Lol
Just sidestep 4 meters and shoot his ancle/elbow.
Dozer is the most easiest counterable specialist, he is by far the weakest.
- Yes Casper has a tugs system but there is a pretty huge difference:
It doesn’t show targets that doesn’t move and more importantly it doesn’t show you WHERE the enemy is.
You are better off hearing footsteps at this point than looking at his Tugs system.
Shall I dismantle more claims of yours ?
Specialists in Battlefield are just bad and should never return. Simple as that.
@tom_looken
Side stepping Dozer is like avoiding an angry tortoise. Its not difficult. LOL
Can we nerf the people constantly crying?
nah, we should nerf paik.
and with it punish players who rely on crutches like this… e.g you
@emerson1975 She legit has a wallhack and you think this is okay? lol
@Prof3ss0r_M1k3You are confused because you didn't bother actually reading who/what I was replying to in the thread...which had nothing at all to do with a specific specialist as you seem to thnk.
My comment was regarding how they've nerfed everything too much, IMO.
@BigShottt wrote:
@Prof3ss0r_M1k3We're not talking about designing different traits; we're talking about nerfing vs buffing those traits...and they most definitely should NOT be set the same in PvP as it should be set in PvE for very obvious reasons.
PvE has always required different weapon and vehicle balancing than what works well in PvP...if you don't have the experience to understand that rule then there's no point in going on about it.
i unlock all of my attachments in solo because it's faster. i understand how PvE works. it sounds like you are making the case that you want PvE toys that aren't in PvP. if that happens then there should be zero exp gain in PvE and no progression on weapon/vehicle unlocks
there should be *one* set of rules for everyone PvE and PvP if progression in PvE carrys over into PvP and wall hacks have no place in PvP
@BigShottt wrote:
@Prof3ss0r_M1k3
More simply put, 1 human brain going solo against a team of 32 AI plays much differently than 32 human brains going up against an opposing team of 32 more human brains. The weapons in the latter scenario would typically need to be nerfed to provide adequate game play since the human brains are currently more effective fighters than our current AI tech.
You can easily test this without being a developer, by simply recognizing just how different the gameplay is when comparing how a map flows while playing it PvP as opposed to playing it PvE. The flows will typically be very different with each requiring a very different style of play.
More broadly speaking, the "PvE balancing act" is a different animal than the "PvP balancing act" and what works for one will typically not work for the other.
So as far as I'm concerned, they need to split the weapon and vehicle balancing between these 2 very different styles of gameplay. PvP needs nerfs and PvE needs buffs, it's always been this way.
I may not be an expert, but after thousands of hours developing combat gaming missions since 2001 for the Arma/Flashpoint series (which is heavily based upon AI technologies) I've learned a couple things about the differences between the way that AI fight and the way that human's fight... and I'll leave it at that.
I get it, you like being OP in single player, but nothing you have written gives a compelling argument to keep wall hacks in PvE or PvP. just because the AI acts differently that does not give a case for being able to see through walls. also, if PvE operates on a separate set of rules that advantages the player against the AI from PvP, then NO progression should be available that can be used in PvP.
i also don't think that DICE should allocate resources to try to balance PvE and PvP separately. we are already getting the bare minimum content and they are severely lacking on bug fixes such as the aim down sights bug so that is a complete missallocation of resources in my opinion.
