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Alethes
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

Re: Rat catching

@ForumUser I admit it is difficult to judge whom could be cheating, but if we go by HS% beyond which value does it get suspicious?…

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  • @TheseusJason

    Only check weapons with >100 kills. For ARs I'd say 30% is clear indicator of cheating. For sniper rifles, it depends. But if the guy has an overall acc of 50% and then 98% HS, then this is a 100% sign that he/she is cheating (just imagine being just able to hit half of all shots fired, but IFF you hit, then it is always a HS. That is statistically not possible.
  • ATFGunr's avatar
    ATFGunr
    Legend
    2 years ago
    @TheseusJason What’s your take on the manufacturers, like Microsoft & Sony. Where does their responsibility lie? Developers have been at this for years with a pretty low success rate. Cheats couldn’t work without the operating system allowing it. Many programs require a certificate to run, and while maybe those can be spoofed it would change the bar for the average lazy cheater. Game talks to OS, OS says red listed certificate and game won’t play. I’m sure it’s not that simple, but why are we not holding the OS manufacturers responsible for their passive role.
  • Alethes's avatar
    Alethes
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @ATFGunr I fully agree with you, 100%.
    While I’m IT ignorant it is a fact that the Apple OS seems impervious to malware for decades, and look at Microsoft’s with near constant ‘security updates’. Something to do with kernel architecture?
    Why can the brains at Apple do something about it but not Microsoft and Sony?…
  • Alethes's avatar
    Alethes
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @ForumUser wrote:
    @TheseusJason

    Only check weapons with >100 kills. For ARs I'd say 30% is clear indicator of cheating. For sniper rifles, it depends. But if the guy has an overall acc of 50% and then 98% HS, then this is a 100% sign that he/she is cheating (just imagine being just able to hit half of all shots fired, but IFF you hit, then it is always a HS. That is statistically not possible.

    @ForumUser I find stats unreliable. On TRN’s it lists me as having 77,5% HS on 435 kills with the DXR-1. And 104% accuracy with the MCS-880 on 510 kills.

    How is it possible to have 104% accuracy?… Not only out of 510 kills I apparently did not miss a single shot (?) but also more shots hit the target than I actually fired. Where did they come from…?

  • sk1lld's avatar
    sk1lld
    Legend
    2 years ago
    @TheseusJason

    Thats crazy, how can a weapon be 104% accurate?

    Yeah, stats are not an accurate way to determine hackers but if the headshot kill is high, it gives you someone to watch. We need rental servers that we can police!
  • Alethes's avatar
    Alethes
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @sk1lld 🤌 it really seems it isn’t easy to catch them… Publishers have thrown millions at it, to no avail. Thankfully the situation is not as bad as on ‘BFV’, where it is simply blatant…
  • Alethes's avatar
    Alethes
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @sk1lld wrote:
    @TheseusJason

    Thats crazy, how can a weapon be 104% accurate?

    Yeah, stats are not an accurate way to determine hackers but if the headshot kill is high, it gives you someone to watch. We need rental servers that we can police!

    …crazy, isn’t it? Yet here it is. The extra shots must have come from the quantum cloud.

  • ATFGunr's avatar
    ATFGunr
    Legend
    2 years ago

    @TheseusJason wrote:

    @ForumUser wrote:
    @TheseusJason

    Only check weapons with >100 kills. For ARs I'd say 30% is clear indicator of cheating. For sniper rifles, it depends. But if the guy has an overall acc of 50% and then 98% HS, then this is a 100% sign that he/she is cheating (just imagine being just able to hit half of all shots fired, but IFF you hit, then it is always a HS. That is statistically not possible.

    @ForumUserI find stats unreliable. On TRN’s it lists me as having 77,5% HS on 435 kills with the DXR-1. And 104% accuracy with the MCS-880 on 510 kills.

    How is it possible to have 104% accuracy?… Not only out of 510 kills I apparently did not miss a single shot (?) but also more shots hit the target than I actually fired. Where did they come from…?


    I agree with your comment about the stats, the online sources for stats are completely inaccurate. I’m not even sure how accurate the in game stats are either. Stats can also be misleading due to the frequency of bot fill, most stats don’t differentiate between bots and real players. Stats can give you a hint though, if it’s showing 99% HS it’s going to be a major sign. I find the totals are often wrong, levels are wrong, that kind of thing, but they’re remotely in the ballpark so stats can still show a person is cheating.

  • DigitalHype's avatar
    DigitalHype
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    There have been issues with calculating hit percentage accuracy with shotguns due to each pellet being treated as a separate projectile. Where more than one can hit the same target. This is likely why you are seeing greater than 100% accuracy. This can also happen with penetrating projectiles that hit more than one target and explosives.

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