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Re: Thank you EA for going serious on the Anti Cheat for 2042!

@carsono311 At least in the UK that's how it works IP wise... Sever admins ban reset router and back again :P Unless things has drastically changed in last 10+ years.

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  • carsono311's avatar
    carsono311
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @1Hairy-GorillaYour router at home is using a public, static IP address. You might get a different local, private IP on your computer at home upon reset, but the public is static. This is pretty standard worldwide.

    VPN IP addressing is the same and I would expect commonly used VPN services have known static IP blocks that could be preemptively blocked if EA DICE so chooses… but I doubt it.

  • @carsono311  All I know is some salty admin banned me and was back after a few minutes.

    No you have to give a static IP to a device over here if you want to.

  • schpeikodelix's avatar
    schpeikodelix
    Seasoned Veteran
    5 years ago

    @carsono311 

    German Providers and public ipv4 adresses: 

    Telekom - forced new ipv4 adress every 24h 

    Vodafone DSL - forced new ipv4 adress every 24h

    Vodafone Cable - forced new ipv4 adress about 180 days, if you reboot your router new ip adress with every reboot 

    1 & 1 - forced new ipv4 adress every 24h 

    O2Online - forced new ipv4 adress every 24h 

    and the list goes on ...

    In Germany we need to pay an extra fee or to have a business contract to get a static public adress

  • carsono311's avatar
    carsono311
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @frantaypsWell I take it back… does the 24 hour static stay in place or does a reboot change it as previously mentioned?

  • kregora's avatar
    kregora
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @carsono311 Unless you have a business tarif active, or you pay extra for a static IP, you get a different IP every 24h in Germany.
    But in addition it becomes more common that you get dynamic IPv6 addresses that are pooled into IPv4 addresses towards the internet when necessary. So you get the situation that several routers use the same public IPv4 address outbound.
  • carsono311's avatar
    carsono311
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @kregoraOkay, interesting. So the IPv6 address traffic is forwarded to an IPv4 and both are dynamically assigned on a 24hr timer… interesting.

    Makes sense, however what about inbound traffic? Does the ISP vlan it? Centrally managing the router configs / ARPs seems simple enough…

  • kregora's avatar
    kregora
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @carsono311Inbound traffic that is initiated from the outside usually doesn't work. So your home network can be a VPN client, but can't be a VPN server for example.
    I assume the ISPs use NAT/IP Masquerading to realize this, similar to what the home network router is doing.

  • carsono311's avatar
    carsono311
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @kregora I considered NAT, but seems that would cause more issues… hmmm all very interesting. Thanks for correcting me.
  • schpeikodelix's avatar
    schpeikodelix
    Seasoned Veteran
    5 years ago

    @carsono311 

    Every Router reconnect forces a fresh ipv4 address.

    AND on top of that 

    Every 24h you have a forced disconnect reconnect with your router from the providers side.

    So if a player gets an IP ban in the IP-Range my internet provider. Chances (in time) for me are getting higher that i get assigned a previously banned ip. 

    The ipv6 / ipv4 Dual Stack (lite) is described here:

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4213

  • carsono311's avatar
    carsono311
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @frantaypsYeah. I thought of the possibility of getting a “recycled” IP, but had assumed the overall shared block would be large enough for it to be a lower likelihood… but perhaps not.  Only helps us keep the cheaters out!

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