Re: The Atmosphere of war

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@G-Recons wrote:
@ragnarok013 Yea man I know the stress the devs are going through and I understand, Hope this game survive this so we all enjoy it

And since you've been In iraq then we are in the same page of why we love battlefield..

Thanks again habibi for saving me from the 3rd ban

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@G-Recons I think we are on the same page. I first encountered Battlefield when my S-6 set up a LAN in our Battalion TOC to play Battlefield with the S-4 and a couple of other guys at night. I was an old Quake player at the time and asked him what he was playing and it was BF1942 (this was 2004)- it looked awesome so I gave it a shot when I redeployed and was hooked. Battlefield also helped with reintegration preventing me from doing some of the stupid stuff others did to chase that combat adrenaline high again so I'm a true believer in the franchise and want it to remain Battlefield instead of Apexfield.

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@ragnarok013 wrote:
@G-ReconsLOL I haven't heard habibi since I was in Iraq!

We're all very passionate about the franchise here on the forums so I understand your frustration very well. I know several devs personally and honestly the best way to get results with feedback is to provide it in a format that is constructive and non-confrontational, detailed with possible solutions to the problems you've identified, and understanding that there may be reasons behind the scenes that the devs cannot control dictating why things are they way they are even if the devs themselves want them to be the way we do.

The surefire way to have your feedback ignored by the devs, even when it's spot on, is to come in with guns blazing insulting the devs (they're people too) or being toxic like a Reddit poster. I really understand BF vets' frustration with this title after the marketing used so much BF3/4 nostalgia so I want them to know how to be the most effective with their feedback on any social media platform.

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I appreciate the answer, but I still have a couple questions on this. I try to be as constructive as possible, so excuse me if I derail a bit. 🦆

I understand that the devs get more or less dictated what they have to include in the game and what no. But how it comes that, if they´re making a game being about war (a casual game, that is there for everyone, but still a game about war), while at the same time you get the impression that war is something funny, cool and hip? 

I think we all agree here, that war is clearly not funny, cool and hip. It´s the actual opposite of that. The "background story" of 2042 is, that the world is on the edge of an apocalypse, where natural disasters kill millions of people, make billions of them refugees and dozens of states become non-existant. Just for the sake of joining the super powers and fight for the last ressources on earth.

But still, I see the Operators here with their cringe voice lines, giving me the impression that they´re just here for some pre-school bully fight, just as wannabe adult edition. I´m pretty sure you guys are already aware of this video, but here´s a comparison of BF3 voice lines of the mulitplayer chars, compared to the ones from 2042:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WswwyF2QqS0&ab_channel=GhostGaming

Sure it has a lot of swearing, but that´s part of war. Nobody in their right mind would say something like "Oh no, that meanie over there is shooting at me! I´m completely defenseless over here!" I think you get what I mean here... 

Next thing is the world, or better said, the maps we´re playing at. Beside from the map Hourglass, absolutely none of the other maps give me the feeling, the world is hit massively by natural disasters. Any other map is way too clean for a scenario like that. Sure, there´re tornados moving around the map here and there, but that´s it? They don´t even do actual destruction on the map. They´re just there and move around players and vehicles. And even on Hourglass, there´s just the sand giving me the impression, natural disasters are actually a thing in this game and play a major role. Otherwise, this map is also way too clean.  

@TTZ_Dipsy got it right here. Battlefield 1 was more or less the last Battlefield that gave me the impression, I´m actually playing a war game here. I don´t really need to add anything more here, because if anyone played enough Battlefield 1 and payed attention to the detail, anyone in their clear mind agrees to that. 

2042? I´m gonna be honest here, this is just a "Fortnite"-tification of a Battlefield. Making a game about war while telling the kids, who enjoy their squishy rainbow skins, that war is something funny, cool and hip. 

I apologize if I´m being rude here and there, but in the 11 years I follow this franchise, I never saw anything more embarrassing. Not even Battlefield V was this close to that what we have here. 

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@G-Recons wrote:
@ragnarok013 "Battlefield also helped with reintegration preventing me from doing some of the stupid stuff others did to chase that combat adrenaline high again"

And that's exactly why we are in the same page
I literally stopped signing contracts and I find peace in Battlefield..

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@G-Recons get out of town, I do contracts in my real job too!

@Terminator000001 nah you're not being rude and many people not only here but in the larger community agree with you. Flakfire just put out a really good video today that says a lot of the same things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxwPfI0r1GE&feature=youtu.be

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@ragnarok013 wrote:
@Terminator000001nah you're not being rude and many people not only here but in the larger community agree with you. Flakfire just put out a really video today that says a lot of the same things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxwPfI0r1GE&feature=youtu.be

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Yeah, he said basically anything that was up my mind. I just didn't make it to tell everything that fast. 🦆 

BF1 was a passion project created by talented people, for sure.