BF6 Aim assist & Snapshot
Overall playing BF6 with cross play is absolutely wild, nothing like playing PC against console players or players using controller on the PC and having players just instantly snap to you is crazy. ...
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PC players need to stop complaining about aim assist. A controller does not have the same degree of precision as a mouse does; there is a reason aim assist was created. PC players already have a hardware advantage; respectfully, blaming aim assist feels like cope. No one cared about it until some streamer brought it.
I would prefer to not play against PC players at all but cross-platform was forced upon all of us and finding a match with it turned off takes forever so I chose to stop whining about it and adapt—you should adapt.
Queue is a trade off many that want to play a good match would wait for.
No you fool BigBlueStupid... It is VERY MUCH A PROBLEM when its this bbad. Aim assist has been around a while, and its always been, ha not enough, now its too much. Honestly if you can play with mouse and keyboard on console, why have aim assist? There is no reason it should do snapping and lasers and reduce spread. It should be there as a tool to help with AIM, not target aquisition.
Also now that tools like gyro aim exist, there should be no reason for aim assist at all. Let the xbox controllers suffer, its their fault for buying team green. Everyone else has motion in their controller, they can use it , and they gain a flick stick which even mouse users dont normally have."A controller does not have the same degree of precision as a mouse does"
No, but it has target slow down and rotational AA target tracking. It also has infinite range of motion. Mnk players have to physically pick up their mouse and move it when they run out of space.
"there is a reason aim assist was created."
AA in old FPS games was mild; in most cases, rotational didn't even exist. It was just target slow down.
"PC players already have a hardware advantage"
Except PC players play on controller as well, and most PCs don't have better hardware than consoles. Steam hardware surveys make that obvious. One, you're just wrong. Two, you're framing this like it's a PC vs Console problem - it's not. Both inputs are available on consoles and PC. Stop being disingenuous.
"blaming aim assist feels like cope. No one cared about it until some streamer brought it."
I'm sorry, what? It's been a point of contention, non-stop, for at least 6+ years since a lot of games became crossplay, especially Warzone. Professional players in FPS, crossplay games are mostly on controller, if not 99% of them. In CoD's case, it's 100%. Apex has nerfed AA in crossplay lobbies by a lot, and +70% of their pros are still on controller.
Many of us like playing Mnk and don't feel like spending money on a controller just to be competitive on an input we don't even want to play. Quit acting like it's fair. It isn't.First of all Apex is near 50/50 and only Imperial Hal (somoene who played many controller years ago) was able to successfully switch from MNK to Roller and still be good, When for example Albralelie tried it he was absolutely awful so lets stop pretending it does everything for you shall we?
as for AA being a point of contention for 6 years, yeah its funny how before crossplay the MNK mindset was no matter what Controller Players wouldnt be able to hang with MNK, that sentiment changed fast no matter how stong or weak various games AA levels are...
and as for that last excuse, if Controller was so blatantly overpowered all of you would switch, but you act like its some moral reason you dont when in reality its simply because if you did switch, you'd still suck
No, but it has target slow down and rotational AA target tracking. It also has infinite range of motion. Mnk players have to physically pick up their mouse and move it when they run out of space.
The slowdown on target is generally the ONLY beneficial part of AA allowing controller to have a somewhat decent max sensitivity for movement while having it drop a bit to maintain accuracy while firing at an enemy. AA target "tracking" is not a thing. If the controller user isnint moving there is a small bit of magnetism but it only gives a slight pull behind or in front of center mass. which isisnt even helpful and why most player turn AA down. 1st) most players are moving 2nd)if you physically aim close enough for magnetism to take effect your already aiming close enough to shoot. and better off aiming where u want, like the head. which is not where any magnetism would put u.
Infinite Range of motion!!?? ya if infinite is the size of a quarter at a lower speed thresh hold. MNK can have massive amount of motion. i myself have a HUGE pad that covers most my desk. u also have a MUCH higher sensitivity limit while MAINTAINING accuracy.
Many of us like playing Mnk and don't feel like spending money on a controller just to be competitive on an input we don't even want to play. Quit acting like it's fair. It isn't.
And this part is a cope. MNK only players say AA is strong, or that it does all the work ect ect. And they simply dont wanna switch or dont wanna spend the money blah blah. Thing is The controller does NOT do the work for you, and even if every single mnk user switched to controller most would be just as average, bad or worse than they are now. even with all the time in the world to practice. So they simply regurgitate the same AA is op crap they only hear but have no hands on experience with.
MNK offers vastly superior tools to perform better with, turn speed, sensitivity, accuracy, recoil control, access to additional buttons to reduce time in using gadgets ect.
Even with all those tools making it easier some controller users are simply more skilled. MNK does not mean your instantly better, and blaming AA is just a default excuse to justify an entitled bias towards a preferred input.
Both inputs take skill and diff skill sets and metas for each, and should not mix. but implying one does all the work for you is disingenuous and is never backed. But if u wanna make a switch and drop a vid of u instantly doing far better after switching then u can feel free to prove it
Stryke 07, it sound to me that you have the time and money to do it. If you start playing today, you should be a pro by tomorrow and you can let everyone know how easier it is to play with keyboard and mouse
Crossplay is generally evil, whoever invented it should get a few slaps.
Crossplay should be so that it really doesn't give an advantage.
Well, here on BF6 it's another tragedy, I watched and tried it and found out that it's better to play with a controller than with a mouse. It was all much faster :). I killed players like nothing until I wanted to cry, what kind of Aim assist is designed here.
Sorry my English is so badIf this is how you justify legal aim botting than PC players should have the option to turn off cross-play.
Think the thing is that for PC you have more precision yes but that means you can fail at that precision. Targets move, recoil control, camera shakes from getting hit, these things don’t seem to affect controllers, once they lock on the TTD timer starts running. You get into these situations that are not winnable. And with PC you get punished really hard on medium/long range with the stronger recoil.
I am the most hopeless person using a controller when I try it on the wifes PS5, I can actually kill people quite easily in BF6 with controller lol
In the end there is no perfect solution but all my unexplainable insta gibs are 9/10 times by controller.
If anything the aim-assist could use some tuning.
Think the thing is that for PC you have more precision yes but that means you can fail at that precision. Targets move, recoil control, camera shakes from getting hit, these things don’t seem to affect controllers, once they lock on the TTD timer starts running. You get into these situations that are not winnable. And with PC you get punished really hard on medium/long range with the stronger recoil.
Are you for real?? another person who obviously never used a controller spouting nonsense. ALL those things affect controller aim, and there is no "locking on" All that u mentioned, camera shake, recoil, target tracking, is all FAR EASIER on MNK. using full arm to control higher sensitivity while keeping accuracy. On sticks u only have ur thumb and tiny micro movements to control so any tiny move away from target in recoil or flinch, shake, means the aim is way off and got and area the size of a quarter to correct it. AA adds a slower sensitivity on target so u can have a higher sensitivity while moving and turning, which is still FAR slower than 99.99% of all MNK users.
Nothing else AA has going for it matters other than that sensitivity drop. and more often than not makes aim worse
Yes I am, I check what input I was killed with when the TTD < TTK and it’s mostly controllers that’s saying a lot. There are specific engagements where controllers seem to be much better vs mouse I would guess because of the low base recoil just means more bullets will hit naturally, something that nearly can’t be done on mouse. Low base recoil also means lower spread so less RNG misses on controller.
You are not understanding the issue. No one here saying that Aim Assist should not exist. But as of now, it locks on enemy head trough vegetation or in positions where its simply unfair. Its just as unfair as if K+M players would play against 0 Aim assist controller players.
The assist and the systems around is ridiculously unfair and unbalanced,Did I says it shouldn't exist, im confirming its huge disadvantage, but until you try it you wouldn't know about it. There is a good number of player who just play for fun. Ignorance is bliss at times, and im at fault too.
Actually ps5 players have an issue that AA not working for them. One feels that the game is unplayable because of it so he canceled his pre-order. he feels that he has a huge disadvantage against other platforms. Can't blame him cause I have been beam several times they need to fix this. I wish they had given themselves more time before the 2nd play test to deal with issues cause so far I can't tell the difference between 1st and 2nd play test aside from the new map
There are NO valid reasons for aim assist, aim snap, less recoil, or any other type of assisting, to exist! None! Anyone wanting to use a controller should have to "Get gud" naturally with it. Same for those who choose to us a M&K. It's not Fair Play when you allow that type of cheap, BS in games. Any game. Not just BF. And now that M&K will be supported on consoles, give us an input-based matchmaking option.
Aim assist should not exist, why play a game when the game aims for you & cross play should not exist, this is just decision making based on greed & stupidity. All forced cross play games have a very short life spam and die. Still some geniuses believe it's a smart thing to do stupid things over and over again and then wondering what is going on. Maybe they should look around and see that all the top games have NO cross play, never have and never will.
LOL!!! Get Gud.
why don't you adapt and buy a PC?
If you tell us to adapt we will simply buy a xim matrix and then you can be the one complaining about mnk that has aim assist, then I'll hit you with that same line, " you should adapt"
