No recoil = no buy.

Who said there is no recoil in BF6? There is, even with the attachments, you can try it in the beta. In various videos people obviously compensate it, so it cannot be taken as a reference. ;)

On controllers, there is no recoil. I saw a streamer show it today. After adding a few attachments, controllers have absolutely no recoil, do you understand what I'm saying, completely zero recoil. It doesn't matter if you're shooting from 10 or 40 meters, zero, no recoil, and that's without any stick counter-movement. If you claim otherwise, you're simply not telling the truth, and you don't know what you're talking about.

You didn't specify that. With mouse and keyboard, the recoil is clearly present and I can confirm that by my own experience. Apparently, it's present even with controllers (like shown here), but I cannot confirm it's from the current beta build though. But yeah, as you think that I am not telling the truth, I don't think that I need to react further. ;)

Mice also have no recoil. I checked. The game was made for gamers, CoD players, and people with no skills... casual gamers. It's laughable, except for me. I'm sticking with the "5" where skill still mattered and recoil control distinguished good players from weaker ones. What's supposed to differentiate them, don't you know? Because in CoD, it's movement, and here it's not. So we have a game without movement and without recoil... a game without a skill gap. Tell me, who is this game for?

Forget it! CoD players will never understand what you're trying to say, my friend. They haven't played Battlefield, so they don't get how bullet drop or projectile travel works. They're stuck with limited engines that only simulate weapon recoil and ignore everything else Battlefield takes into account. Yes, you're absolutely right, and I completely agree. My friends are also complaining a lot about it...it doesn't even feel like Battlefield anymore. It's disgusting!

At the very least, bullet spread needs to increase faster. This would at least force you to burst fire more often and keep recoil low for a "wider audience". I don't really know what to expect out of this game, so there's no chance I'll be picking it up any time within a year of release at the earliest.

I cant believe somebody said increase the bullet spread on automatic weapons lmao. Why even have full auto mode then dude. Why not just force everyone into semi auto then? Even semi auto has bullet spread so you must LOVE that too.

I have never once shot a gun in any video game, and wished the bullets wouldnt go where i was aiming. Yall BF fans are some real chimp brains

19Romulus84​  you really think bursting is a skill? Dude youre pressing a button, stopping, and pressing a button again. All because you want to fight random bullet spread more than you fight the enemy.

I swear were playing different games. The 433 when i use it along with just about every other gun in the game, no matter how I set it up has recoil. I'd say fairly unpredictable recoil too. At closer ranges its not enough to cause too much issue but throwing a Aimpoint Comp M5S (CCO) with 2X magnification (which I really hope they change, its an unmagnified red dot and should be 1-1.25x mag not 2X for no reason) is enough to make it very obvious there's decent recoil. Its not just a straight up recoil like other games. Its all over the place, randomly pulling to the right or left and has random bursts of upward recoil bouncing all over the place. I'm on controller but my cousin I played with is on MnK and he said the exact same thing as me. The recoil is there. Its somewhat realistic (though I've never fired a full auto but rapid firing my AR15 and MCX Virtus its similar). I truly don't understand how apparently there's two entirely different BF6 betas people are playing. Either that or the people complaining havent even played it and just go off of streamers who master that kind of thing... or cheat lol.

Another AK-205 user I see.