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CarbonCarl
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago

Re: Yo, DICE

@Popa2caps
I'm not against this, but I'm just curious is this because you feel Console vs PC is unfair or would it be to stay away from PC cheats?

I'm personally looking forward to crossplay because I have friends on console who refuse to move to PC, so this means I get to play with them without having to buy a separate console version. Warzone works out well for us at least.

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  • Plucky6922's avatar
    Plucky6922
    5 years ago

    @CarbonCarl 
    For me it is two part.
    1. PC hacks.
    EA/Dice has a horrible track record.
    I gave Warzone a try a year or so ago.
    Every 3rd game with Crossplay  had 1 PC guy wiping the lobby with obvious hacks.
    So if it is/was hard for them to control hacking....EA/Dice is in trouble.

    2. Controller Aim Assist.
    I play on Console/Controller and I hate Aim Assist.
    It should not be in a First Person Shooter.
    I turn that crap off, since I want to play the game, not have the game play for me.
    BFV aim assist is already stupidly insane.
    Dice will probably turn it up to 11 to "help" controller players against Mouse/KB players for BF6, making the crutch that is Aim Assist be even more OP.
    Meh.

    We also have the legal tools PC players have, such as filters, or turning down textures so further away players are visible but not the trees/bushes they are using for cover, but that is a whole other discussion.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    5 years ago

    @CarbonCarl 

    Hello, Thanks for the reply.

    Yeah, I don't want PC vs console cross-play because of cheaters. Just be clear, only because of the cheaters.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    5 years ago

    @CarbonCarl 

    Honestly I don't think EA DICE would force cross-play between PC and console/s the more I think about it. I get it contradicts my post, but Respawn did the same with Apex Legends. Respawn did blame it on the chewbacca defence, aka mouse & keyboards defence, but most know it was because of the cheaters.

  • CarbonCarl's avatar
    CarbonCarl
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago
    @Plucky6922
    I understand PC cheats etc but I disagree with at least DICE having a track record. For me their games have been solid on release in terms of cheating and you could watch cheats get banned within minutes. It’s really only BFV that they showed no interest it seemed imo.
    In older titles sure, cheating is rampant but it doesn’t bother me because I only ever play the latest titles, it’s rare I go back to older titles.

    If anyone has a track record it’s the CoD franchise, even on console those games were filled with cheats and terrible servers which is why I quit at black ops. I have only ever gone back to play Warzone which for the most part I have enjoyed on PC.

    I think lately Warzone has got real bad, I have stopped playing since the past season or two and after finding out they banned 475k accounts last week shows you how insane the cheating is on there, I’m not going back to it.

    As for controller aim assist, I don’t think I’ve ever played a console game without it being included, so that shouldn’t affect cross play.
    But yeh, I have always hated aim assist personally.

    As for PC tools etc I agree, mice alone are more accurate and have many settings of their own.

  • CarbonCarl's avatar
    CarbonCarl
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago

    @Popa2caps
    That’s a fair argument. I will say tho the Battlefield titles have been pretty solid in their first year or two after release, which is usually when their next title comes out. BFV being the exception, which I think has put a lot of people off overall.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    5 years ago

    @CarbonCarl 

    I was in the early release of Battlefield 5 and got cheated by an open aimbot in the first hour. I only remember it because everyone was testing the chat filter.

    200 hours Mechwarrior Online, 2800 hours of DOTA2, 30 hours PUBG, 7 Years of Eve Online, 1200+ hours Apex Legends, 50 - 100 hours Battlefield 1

    In my experience, the Battlefield series has more cheaters out of all of the games I've played. In Apex Legends for example I reported something like 400+ and I still think Battlefield has more. Understand I don't falsely report players. I mostly always played solo, so I stayed and watched and recorded. If I can't watch, I didn't report.

    I don't blame any one person, but just saying I won't deal with it. I'm saying that like, if someone forces me, I just won't play their product, like not at all. Not even to try it. Like I am a person who will use something for a long time, then an update changes something and I'll quit using that product. I'm not brand loyal at all.

    Offtopic (somewhat)

    Keep hearing talks about weather being in the game, man I hope DICE doesn't forget this is a first person shooter, and get lost in the Frostbite mentality again like the last 3 titles.

    Battlefield 4 might have been fun after the year of patches, but man I didn't like the visuals compared to Battlefield 3. I still remember that really bad effect when you turned it would create a flash effect on debris, like little sparks or something.

    No joke, if PUBG would just make destruction, more vehicles and a conquest type mode, I wouldn't ever look back. I have a blast in PUBG deathmatch mode they have currently (consoles). It could grow to me so much more. PUBG console, no aim assist, no PC cross-play, simply amazing (Stadia doesn't count as PC).

    I think it would be funny if the game was just bad, like so bad Fallout 76 had a better BR lol

  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
    Hero+
    5 years ago

    I'd only toggle it on to play against my PC friends and steal dogtags/souls from the popular youtubers to add to my collection - I think regular play would be a nightmare considering aim discrepensies and the obvious plethora of supposed cheaters to contend with

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