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wjcain
9 years ago
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shot through a building

how could i be shot through a building and container with no line of site from sniper? [video removed]
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    spitfiresiemion
    9 years ago

    First of all, I cut the video out as, while borderline, it still had an implication of other, named player (As you could see his name in the killcam) doing something unfairly (and this kind of uploading is not allowed).

    However, I still gave this video a good look and checked things out. Here is what I found out:

    So, well, there was a possibility of that sniper having a line of fire. I have joined a Hammerhead server to check it. First of all, the wall behind you probably was destroyed. While at the very moment when you died the line of fire looked like this (keep in mind that it still was there, albeit narrow), from sniper's point of view it almost certainly was closer to what I show on picture #2 (as your enemy sees you in a slightly different spot due to latency)

    See? The line of fire is getting wider. You're already visible quite well from the right side of that hole in the wall, and you could also be targeted from more angles, depending on how many trees are destroyed.

    Now, let's see it from sniper's point of view. Judging by the killcam, he was somewhere on this hill (exact location is tough to pinpoint). I have selected two spots, marked with red numbers:

    Now, let's see how it looks through 20x sniper scope, prone.

    Location 1:

    Location 2:

    Flare on first screenie marks the spot where you most likely were from sniper's standpoint when you got killed. He could actually see you even if you moved a bit to the right (to the location from first photo of my reply). Unfortunately the flare died out by then, but it's pretty clear that, considering latency he still had a line to shoot you, even though it would've been a more challenging shot than the first one. Considering your movements, in both cases sniper would've had time to spot you and line the shot up.

    All in all, from my point of view you almost certainly have been shot without wall or container blocking the line of fire from sniper's perspective... take it as you will. However, if you think that there was some foul play involved, then what you should do is to report that player via Battlelog - go to his profile, click on a small triangle in top right part of his profile page, select "Report possible cheat" and describe the incident (this includes sending the clip). That's the only way to do it.

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wjcain
9 years ago

thanks spitfire, i appreciate the time and effort you put into explaining this to me. i did not mean to put that player's name out here or do something unallowed. my apologies. i dont really know if he was using an exploit or if it was a lucking shot. to me, it was more of an issue with server dynamics allowing something that appeared to him to be a clean kill shot but to me it was a shot through obstacles for a headshot.

i felt that the shot was not possible when i played and recorded the snippet to review. i tried to position myself by the long container that you are able to access in the warehouse so i could shield myself from the sniper fire coming from that hill you pointed out. when the snowmoblie enters and i engaged that enemy, i was moving to the right and under what i thought was still cover from that container. 

going over the video and your explanation i do see the possibility. still......SUCKS!

thanks again.

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spitfiresiemion
9 years ago

It's fine, no problem. It didn't really look as if you wanted to blame that person, but you know, someone else might interpret it differently and things can get ugly afterwards... in such cases, it's better to play it safe.

This particular play was pretty much a classic 'game of inches' situation. Unfortunately, in such cases the fact that BF4 uses client side hit detection comes into play - miliseconds turn into inches, which in that case probably made the difference (although not necessarily).

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