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HUN_gattaca_lg
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
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The new BF1 player receives five fewer battlepacks with the premium pass

sry my hunglish Today I repurchased Battlefield 1 Revolution Editon for PC platform. I'm curious what this BF1 Revolution Editon contains now. (For Christmas, I want to buy an Asus ROG Ally or a L...
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    Viancee_IlI
    2 years ago

    The number is correct. You can see 27 (total) available battlepacks, the reason why you see 22 battlepacks in the slider itself is because these show the types of battlepacks by revision. At the top left, you can see a multiplier which just shows that a battlepack of the same type is awarded (x5) times and (x2) for one of the distinguished ones, which makes a total of 27 battlepacks. The total amount of battlepacks a player receives is still correct. I just purchased a new copy of the game and I've received the amount that has been advertised. No bad faith on EA's part. The number is correct:





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Viancee_IlI
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2 years ago

The number is correct. You can see 27 (total) available battlepacks, the reason why you see 22 battlepacks in the slider itself is because these show the types of battlepacks by revision. At the top left, you can see a multiplier which just shows that a battlepack of the same type is awarded (x5) times and (x2) for one of the distinguished ones, which makes a total of 27 battlepacks. The total amount of battlepacks a player receives is still correct. I just purchased a new copy of the game and I've received the amount that has been advertised. No bad faith on EA's part. The number is correct:





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    HUN_gattaca_lg
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Viancee_IlI 
    thx Maria
    You're really right, I counted that way and there are 27 battlepacks in total with Premium Pass.


    Do these unique revison battlepacks drop skins that other ultimate revison battlepacks (basic, enhanced, superior ultimate battlepack and operation battlepacks) drop?
    Are there no exchange exclusives among the possible skins?

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      HUN_gattaca_lg
      Seasoned Ace
      2 years ago

      I've been looking through these unique revision battlepacks one by one to see what potential skins they drop.
      These skins are not exchange exclusive and these skins are dropped by ultiamate revison battlepacks (basic, enhanced or superior) or operation battlepacks.
      Maria's battlepack theory passed my test again.

      I will try to explain Maria's battlepack theory one more time.


      self-loading rifle skins:
      8 slots of self-loading rifle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of self-loading rifles skins on inventory screen) AND these self-loading rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Kirkpatrick skin for Cei-Rigotti (Battlefest reward), La Bizzarrìa skin for Cei-Rigotti (Road to Battlefield V reward), Blutigen April skin for Selbstlader M1916 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Odin skin for Selbstlader M1916 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Old Drum skin for M1907 SL (Road to Battlefield V reward), Ah Tabai skin for Mondragón (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Arneson skin for Autoloading 8 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Das Jagdschloss Rominten skin for Selbstlader 1906 (Road to Battlefield V reward)

      10 slots of self-loading rifle skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these self-loading rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Dead Kings skin for Howell Automatic (APOC), Flora Sandes skin for Howell Automatic (APOC), Noyelles-sur-Mer skin for General Liu Rifle (TSAR), Auby-les-Hesdin skin for General Liu Rifle (TSAR), Oituz skin for Fedorov Avtomat (TSAR), Marasti skin for Fedorov Avtomat (TSAR), Chanson de Craonne skin for RSC 1917 (TSNP), De Scévola skin for RSC 1917 (TSNP), Testament of Youth skin for Farquhar-Hill (TIDE), Tondern Raid skin for Farquhar-Hill (TIDE)

      smg skins:
      5 slots of smg skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of smg skins on inventory screen) AND these smg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Der Weimaraner skin for MP18 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Hutier skin for MP18 (Battlefest reward), Siegfriedstellung skin for MP18 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Il Bracco skin for Automatico M1918 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Tiroler Bracke skin for Hellriegel 1915 (Road to Battlefield V reward)

      10 slots of smg skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these smg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Le Chat Noir skin for RSC SMG (APOC), Loup Garou skin for RSC SMG (APOC), Forain skin Ribeyrolles 1918 (TSNP), Felixmüller skin for SMG 08/18 (TSAR), Bakhmach skin for SMG 08/18 (TSAR), Schoenberg skin for Maschinenpistole M1912/P.16 (TIDE), Billy Mitchell skin for Annihilator, Over There skin for Annihilator, Toward the Flame skin for Annihilator, Stramm skin for M1917 Trench Carbine (TIDE)

      lmg skins:
      8 slots of 8 lmg skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of lmg skins on inventory screen) AND these lmg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Blood Tub skin for Lewis Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Golden Retriever skin for Lewis Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Yells skin for Lewis Gun (Battlefest reward), La Grand Griffon skin for M1909 Benét-Mercié (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Atterdag skin for Madsen MG (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Deutsche Dogge skin for MG15 n.A (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Boykin Spaniel skin for BAR M1918 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Canadian Cur skin for Huot Automatic (Road to Battlefield V reward)

      10 slots of lmg skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these lmg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Calligrammes skin for Chauchat (TSNP), Ma p'tite Mimi skin for Chauchat (TSNP), Monte Ortigara skin for Perino Model 1908 (TSAR), Pozzuolo skin for Perino Model 1908 (TSAR), Der Sturm skin for lMG 08/18 (APOC), Franz Marc skin for lMG 08/18 (APOC), Paul Klee skin for Parabellum MG14/17 (TSAR), Otto Dix skin for Parabellum MG14/17 (TSAR), Rendezvous skin for M1917 MG (TIDE), Amos Wilder skin for M1917 MG (TIDE),


      rifle skins:
      8 slots of rifle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of rifles skins on inventory screen) AND these rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Corbett skin for SMLE MKIII (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Pegahmagabow skin for MLE MKIII (Battlefest reward), Die Wilde Jagd skin for Gewehr 98 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Teddy skin for Russian 1895 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Kaiserin Elizabeth skin for Gewehr M.95 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Osterschlacht skin for Gewehr M.95 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Eisenhower skin for M1903 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Bloodhound skin for Martini-Henry (Road to Battlefield V reward)

      10 slots of rifle skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Poperinghe skin for Ross MkIII (APOC), Wakamiya skin for Type 38 Arisaka (TIDE), Company K skin for M1917 Enfield (APOC), De Chirico skin for Carcano M91 (TIDE), Crna Bend skin for Vetterli-Vitali M1870/87 (TSAR), Doberdò skin for Vetterli-Vitali M1870/87 (TSAR), Cobadin skin for Mosin-Nagant M91 (TSAR), Monastir skin for Mosin-Nagant M91 (TSAR), Le Grand Cheval skin for Lebel Model 1886 (TSNP), La Madelon skin for Lebel Model 1886 (TSNP)

      shotgun skins:
      3 slots of shotgun skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of shotgun rifles skins on inventory screen) AND these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Cleveland skin for Model 10-A (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Washington skin for M97 Trench Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Truman skin for 12g Automatic

      3 slots of shotgun skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Thord-Grey skin for Sjögren Inertial (TSNP), Fismes skin for Model 1900 (TSAR), Fismette skin for Model 1900 (TSAR)

      sidearm skins:
      3 slots of sidearm skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of sidearm skins on inventory screen) AND these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Incarcerator skin for M1911 ("Road to Battlefield 1" Mission reward), Package from Home skin for M1911 ("Play to Give 2017" Mission reward), Holiday Package skin for No. 3 Revolver ("Holiday Mission #4 2017" reward)

      vehicle skins:
      6 slots of vehicle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of vehicle skins on inventory screen), BUT these skins drops from battlepacks: Black Shark skin for Destroyer, Checker Dazzle skin for Destroyer, Stripe Dazzle skin for Destroyer, HMA No. 3 skin for Airship, HMA No. 8 skin for Airship, HMA No. 16 skin for skin for Airship

      8 slots of self-loading rifle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these self-loading rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      10 slots of self-loading rifle skins are visible on inventory screen, but these self-loading rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      5 slots of smg skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these smg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      10 slots of smg skins are visible on inventory screen, but these smg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      8 slots of 8 lmg skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these lmg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      10 slots of lmg skins are visible on inventory screen, but these lmg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      8 slots of rifle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      10 slots of rifle skins are visible on inventory screen, but these rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      3 slots of shotgun skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      3 slots of shotgun skins are visible on inventory screen, but these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      3 slots of sidearm skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks +
      =
      total 78 skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks, these 78 skins are exchange exclusive

      • HUN_gattaca_lg's avatar
        HUN_gattaca_lg
        Seasoned Ace
        2 years ago

        Maria's battlepack theory is based on many years of collecting work, I think it deserves all the respect.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/17eldms/comment/k66xz19/

        Maria's explanation on BF1 subreddit:

        How do I know? Because of these three factors:

        It was one of those battlefest/holiday exclusive skins that were introduced for participating in certain events.

        And this is literally the game telling you what's included - On the right-hand side of the battlepack there are listed skins. So take for example the regular battlepack (which is also the EOR BP), given that it contains the largest pool of skins in the game. So, take for example its column - it has 15 listed (potential) skins, and +750 other (possible) skins. And the wording is really important, but a lot tend to miss what the game is literally telling them, Dice (for the most part) did a very good job with the wording, and this is coming from a person who had graduated law. The skins on that list do not indicate that the drop is limited to one of those 15 showcased skins in particular, those are just potential drops.

        There used to be a time where each battlepack had a Revision, and it listed just a particular set of skins and the drop was limited to the ones listed, that is not the case anymore, this is why you see the label "Ultimate Revision" now on each of the three store-bought types of battlepacks. Because it can't show all of the 765 skins from the pool and unnecessarily bloat the game's pagefile, hence you see just 15 example skins. Back in the day you had, say, the "Winter Revision" and you had just a few handpicked skins which were, for the most, part white (to match the theme).

        Why am I telling you all of this? Because over the years I kept track of each and every skin shown on that list and came to the conclusion that from all of the 846 skins, 81 skins were never included on there, now if you do the math and deduct the skins from the largest pool (765) you get the exact same number of 81 (and 79 in the Superior one since two of the M1911 skins which do not drop from battlepacks are of Distinguished rarity, so naturally you won't see them in a legendary-only BP). Skins that never showed up on there were for example No. 3's Holiday Package, the PTFO skins, the Road to BFV skins, etc (just to name a few). However, skins like the M1911's "Care Package" do appear on there, and it's part of the drop pool. Now the "Super Rare" label is what's the most confusing part, because that phrase gives out the notion that the item might drop from battlepacks, it's just that... it's super rare, in reality - this label is based on the pricing. All of the Super Rare skin are priced at 10k scraps. Now, if it's a case of Occam's Razor or genuine malice on EA's part to use that phrase I cannot tell.

        3. This adds cumulatively with what's been said in the previous paragraph. I've opened about 32,000 battlepacks at this point, and I've never stumbled this skin, albeit I've had the "Care Package" drop, and two Super Rare vehicle skins. I even kept track and created a database in which I've named and documented each drop, but I do not know where I can upload it since the file size is really big, but just to give you a quick preview - https://i.imgur.com/ReMElnl.png

        NOTE: The whole documentation inside the screenshot is referential, just because certain skins have been recorded to drop doesn't necessarily mean, on its own, that those that didn't drop do not drop. I wanted to test if ANY of the pinpointed 81 skins from the whole documentation cycle would actually manage drop, but not a single skin from the non-previewed on the right-hand side of the battlepack pool page actually dropped, further confirming that these battlepacks have a pool of only 765 from the total of 846 available to the players (non-developer) skins - just as advertised on the right-hand side of the battlepack. And these skins don't have special drop rates, they are regarded as non-super-rare "Legendary" skins (with the only exception being the No 3 skin, and two distinguished M1911 skins), so normally if they were part of the drop pool their drop chance would've been similar to any other non-super-rare "Legendary" labelled skin.

        The pool for the Superior Battlepack: 118 (+15)

        The pool for the Enhanced Battlepack: 378 (+15)

        The pool for the Regular (End-of-Round) Battlepack: 750 (+15)

        The total amount of skins in the game: 846 (only regarding scrappable, Inventory based skins)

        The pool for each: https://i.imgur.com/MQXOxeg.png

        And keep in mind, I've collected all of the skins in the game (it's on my profile if you are curious to see it). I'm friends with one Twitch streamer named Lagoass who'd also managed to collect everything and the battlefest/holiday introduced skins never dropped for him as well. Since I started the game quite late after its support had been halted and didn't get the chance to participate in these events, I've managed all of these 81 skins through the Exchange

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