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EA_Atic
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6 years ago

[Megathread] BFV and Cheating Discussion

Hey all, We do understand encountering cheaters causes a negative impact on your gaming experience. We want to give you an opportunity to share your thoughts about cheating and what can be done to...
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Real_Noobalishu
6 years ago

G'day @Wolfhound223

While I understand your frustration, having a high ping doesn't mean anyone is cheating and those with a high ping also do have a disadvantage to having a delay in allowed reaction time.

For example, I'm from the Xbox Oceanic servers but due to low number of players after 8pm AWST, 9/10 have to leave and join American servers. Now there is no way I can play as infantry due to a 300+ ping but I can compensate the lag when in a dogfighter and usually go top of the board if not top 3 each and every round.

I'm reported all the time and get some of the most salt induced written messages/voicemail messages you can imagine. From "With that ping do you live in a mudhut" to "I hope your mother dies of stage 4 breast cancer".

I know it can be difficult to believe for some players but there are decent players in other servers around the world, that can compensate for lag in foreign servers. Had these players had the same low level ping you did, I imagine your reaction would be quite different.

However if you truly feel you've seen people actual cheat/hack, please use this link -> https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/faq/report-players-for-cheating-abuse-and-harassment/

Also be sure to check this thread by EA_Atic -> https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Megathread-BFV-and-Cheating-Discussion/m-p/8269567#M982

Try not to let yourself get worked up by other players, there's always another server, there's always another battle 🙂

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OttoVP
6 years ago

@Real_Noobalishus  "I can compensate the lag when in a dogfighter and usually go top of the board if not top 3 each and every round"

sure! every missile or bullet i shoot to you goes missing due to lag XD

there's no way for the other party to compensate tho: lagging is awful mate and it's ruining the game experience both sides we know but won't brag "top score" with 100+ ping 🙂

  • Real_Noobalishu's avatar
    Real_Noobalishu
    5 years ago
    @OttoVP I hate to tell you this but that's not how lag works, if you have a lower ping you actually have the advantage. If I enter a server with 300+ ping and try run on foot...the delay is so bad it's not worth doing.

    For example I shot someone at point blank range with a M30 drilling and nothing happened, next thing I know I'm being stabbed in the back by the person I'm looking at because while I saw them on my screen, in reality I was just standing there not moving. Another time I unloaded an entire mag of the STG only to have all the bullets instantly come back into my gun because it never actually fired in game. You as the person with lower ping has the advantage, if you truly believe you have the advantage I highly encourage you to go into another region server with 300+ ping, run infantry and post your video results here 🙂

    Planes are different due to being linear in nature, you cant make your plane change in any direction within a split second like you can on foot so you can compensate the lag but the other aircraft do have an advantage as the lag you face with high ping can cause the screen to freeze for half a second and this can cause you to have to relign up your shot in a dogfight or worse put you in the ground during a strafe before you realize you've hit the ground. I've detonated in the air because in reality my plane was about 1 second ahead of what I could see.
    • N4v1s's avatar
      N4v1s
      5 years ago
      @Real_Noobalishus This might be true for 300+ ping. However, since BF4 I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) Dice has implemented additions to the net code to help players with bad ping. So playing with 100-150 ping isn't accually to bad. You can quickly adapt to that. The enemy players with normal ping (<50ms) can't adapt, because there is obviously no indicator for them. Therefor the bad ping players have a huge peeking advantage. In pretty much every round I play, there is at least one player with 150 ms ping at the top of the scoreboard, having a really high k/d. I'm convinced that none of these players are cheating, because depending on the situation I can easily kill them. Being behind them makes it easy, even though it might take a couple more bullets, because you just don't hit them.
      In a 1 on 1 firefight however, it's pretty much impossible, because none of your bullets hit, when they are jiggle peeking. That's the reason why I am asking for a ping limit all the time.
      • Roadmay's avatar
        Roadmay
        New Ace
        5 years ago
        @N4v1s 

        I can tell you there is a half scoend latency I will feel when my ping is above 115 . I have been to EU servers 2 or 3 times (for daily missions) and the ping there is above 200 to me , at that situation most of my bullet won't count due to packet loss , they are lost forever when shooting out of the barrel .

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