Team balance, easy fix
I have been saying this for a while now. I think the game has excellent weapon balance, vehicles are ok (tanks and AA a bit OP) but the main issue is still TEAM balance. We all know what I'm talking...
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@Real_Noobalishus if you had a proper balancing system in the first place you could not have a squad of 5 high ranked players matched against complete noobs.
Well, I never proposed comparing K/D of players or squads just only rank. If your are high ranked, you have played the game more and have more idea how to contribute to your team even if your K/D is not super high. Also you could be a low ranked tank wh0re with high K/D and have no clue about infantry play. As I said matching by rank is not super accurate but the goal is not to make every game a draw but to have better teambalance than we have now. This would be the first step, the rest will be fine tuning.
Here is a good example what I was talking about in the previous post:
As you can see the highest ranking players piling up most kills and one team having more of the high ranked players results in a COMPLETE imbalance of the teams.
This is far too common not to notice. Unless you are testing in a closed studio with the same people / relatively similar skill level.
Btw this was the first server I joined today and just by looking at the scoreboard you could tell: it's not worth playing this match because the outcome is already sealed.
Since teambalance is mostly dependent on the rank of the best players in a team here is how I would apply the rule:
Add rank of top 6 players in a team and match it as accurately as possible to the opposing team's same number.
Do the same for the next 6 players with a bit more room for mismatch.
The bottom 20 players can be selected randomly.
With this method teams would be balanced and diverse at the same time.
- @GUTENTAAAAG How would you compensate for top tier players who create smurf accounts and come into the game under rank 20 and destroy everyone including lvl 200+
@Real_Noobalishusit's the least I would worry about. As far as I know there is no way to reset your account so unless you buy the game multiple times, there is no way to fool the ranking system. 99% of players represent their real rank.
Today's experience: played like 8 matches in conquest, lost none, ACE squad 8 times.
Here is the response:
@GUTENTAAAAGYou clearly don't play on console. Once someone has a Xbox Live account and I'm sure Playstation has their version of it, the online access is connected to the console itself. which means you can make as many accounts as you want and the game is shared between all the accounts which means I could make 100 fake accounts and each one would go into the game as lvl 1, no need to keep buying the same game over and over again. These are known as Smurf accounts and you can always tell when there's a smurf account on your server as it'll be the under lvl 10 going 42 - 1 on the ground. Usually in the case of the Oceania region which is small, most of us know each other and are on the same facebook groups, so you can normally work out who the smurf really is based on the gun used and team they run with
@Real_Noobalishus yeah, I play on PC only. In this case if there are plenty of "smurf" accounts the K/D ranking system could work for balancing just keep in mind you don't have to apply it for the whole team, it is enought to balance out the top 20% players to be even to have a balanced match.
- @Real_Noobalishus Can those players be considered as cheaters?
pff Team death match all cheaters, played breakthrough balancing issues.(as described here) And then I only played the daily's this night. The gaming experience is getting more worse these days. Hope the fix will come soon.
- @flyinghorse101 Not sure if I'd call them cheaters, there's generally 2 genuine and 1 unreasonable reasons for creating these fake accounts:
Reasonable 1: We've had an influx of trolls within the Oceania region over the last few months as they believe the game is dead and so they feel they can do what they want. Unfortunately this has lead to platoons of trolls joining servers and targeting specific well known players and following them through the minimal server lists that we have, harassing them until the person quits the game.
Reasonable 2: There are some very competitive players who are trying to get top spot on the K/D leaderboard. After spending the past near 2 years developing skills on BFV they've created new accounts to try and make that 2 K/D average closer to the realistic 8+ K/D they've developed and 9/10 times these people are honest about their smurf accounts, as I said mos of us on Xbox in the Oceania region know each other.
Unreasonable 3: The trolls who keep making fake accounts in order to make surprise appearances on unsuspecting servers, they'll usually keep these acconts for no more than a week before making another Sadly I also see more and more cheaters no EU PC servers.
- @GUTENTAAAAG Yes unfortunately it is. Also on EU.
@Real_Noobalishus Thanks, good to know. Never heard about this. In the end someone joined and came in the left list instead of right. That was a WTF moment.
In the end a guy suicide and left so it came on a draw.. Game just continued with no opposite players and was just on a countdown.
That's really something I expect to be fixed
We need a solution for the problem of the unbalanced teams. It's a great problem of this game.
