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SDGMatt
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

10 Second Corner Cut Penalties

Hi All, I would love to hear some thoughts on a controversial ticket in our racing league

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One of our drivers was awarded 2x10 sec pens for these corner cuts whilst coasting around on the final lap out of fuel. He had already racked up 12 seconds in time penalties and claimed that 10 sec was unfair. I disagreed and noted that in real F1, drivers who continue to exceed track limits after being given a 5 sec pen are then given 10 sec-15 sec and so on....

Is this the game using that same logic? Where these 10 sec pens for the 2 corner cuts justified? 

And considering the rule that we have below, should we remove or reduce these penalties to 3 sec?

6 Replies

  • mariohomoh's avatar
    mariohomoh
    Hero (Retired)
    2 years ago
    @SDGMatt Piggybacking on what @ScarDuck14 said, it's up to you to draw the line at how much of a representation of the sport your league aims to be.

    What the game did there was already a compromise for a fun experience by giving them a 10s penalty. Any car finishing below the minimum fuel threshold gets booted out with a DQ.

    Flashback to Vettel's short-lived but long-lasting P2 in Hungary 2021 💔
  • SDGMatt's avatar
    SDGMatt
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    That's a good point!! LOL

    But I think in this instance I'm trying to get some advice on what you guys think regarding the 10 sec pens being unfair. 

    From my view, according to the rule we have above, he wasn't trying to avoid an incident and he wasn't forced off track, he cut those corners himself, so it's his own fault.

    Our other stewards are arguing that 10 sec would be harsh as it's usually 3 sec. 

    We don't usually remove corner cut pens in the league, so should we stand firm on this?

    Does the game start to award 10 sec when you've exceeded 12 sec in corner cuts? Or is this a genuine unfair penalty that should be reduced post race to 3 sec?

    It would be great if one of the devs could give an insight into why 10 sec pens were given here....

  • mariohomoh's avatar
    mariohomoh
    Hero (Retired)
    2 years ago

    Sorry pal, I see no reason to amend anything - including what we said previously. That's because:

    • Have no idea what their (other stewards) reasoning is. "It's too harsh" is not a proper reason, it's an opinion. If they want to disregard the rules "because it's too harsh", that's a different matter entirely.
    • Don't remember seeing a 3s penalty in this sport for the last two eras. To be fair nor even before that, but my memory isn't elephantic
    • Going off my faulty memory again: 3 off tracks give you a black flag. A 4th gives you black flag. A 5th gives you a 5s penalty. Any subsequent off track gives you 10s penalties, each. The 2023 Austrian GP had a reset on the counting after the first 10s penalty, but I'm not sure that ever made it to the sporting code - nonetheless, bears repeating I've never seen a 3s penalty.

    Leagues are obviously free to do as they choose. But "it's too harsh, don't like it" is a reason to change the rules for the future, not to not apply them in their current state.

    Edit: I'm referring to the real F1 rules by the way.

    Whatever the game does differently, it's pretty safe to assume it does that precisely because "it's too harsh" and doesn't want to spoil casual players' fun by adhering to the real rules.

    But the ramping up you see in the sport (warnings to flag to 5s to 10s) should be observed.

  • SDGMatt's avatar
    SDGMatt
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    So has anyone else experienced 10 sec corner cut penalties in the game? Is this normal?

  • I can say I just had it once in My Team on Paul Ricard. Full wets, lost it in the 2nd or 3rd last corner right where the pit entry was and ended up cutting a massive amount of track and got a 10 second penalty. That’s the only time I have seen that.

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