Car slides during the turn
Please explain why the car slides during the turn, as if drifting. How can I fix this, maybe something in the settings? Check video https://youtu.be/e6K3l8jPSzE
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@BERGoDAVThe handling model improved. I don't use assists but I guess those got rebalanced as well, @ScarDuck14 can speak to that.
The point is, there's no way you're going to have a balanced car and be able to take those corners fast with those abrupt inputs. That would be unrealistic.
No one should expect a car to take a slow speed corner like if it was on rails if braking and throttle are applied like that.
If you're willing to give it a shot, there are many good resources and guides out there, including Youtube. We can certainly point you in the right direction.
First thing you should look at are Trail Braking guides. Or guides to turning off ABS and TC - even if you don't intend to turn those assists off, these guides will teach you the proper technique.
@mariohomoh Possibly related to this thread https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Traction-or-lack-of-with-controller-in-slow-speed-corners/td-p/12668517
Problem is I don’t think assists got a rebalance. I don’t think they take into account the new tyre model 🤷🏻♂️
Problem is I don’t think assists got a rebalance. I don’t think they take into account the new tyre model 🤷🏻♂️
- @ScarDuck14 Tyre model got more foregiving in F1 23 than in F1 22 though.. Does the full TC say that you wont have any tyre slipping?
- @Meza994 Have no idea 🤷🏻♂️. It’s not a case off simple wheel slip. It’s bizarre. Which alone points to it not being right. I’m pretty sure TC has not been properly set and tested. Be it due to the tyre model or handling model.
The weird behaviour happens exactly when tyre grip drops off. - @ScarDuck14 In all honesty i can not find much weirdness, for example in canada the hairpin they never start pushing the throttle as early as in some of the "problem" videos where go full throttle with extreme steering angle.. They dont do that IRL nor in time trial, they never start before half way through the corner and only slowly increase it because its such a tricky traction zone + they use higher downforce than the game suggests..
There might be some things not working 100% right when having auto gears and full TC but id really say most of the mistakes is too extreme inputs, they just made full TC less controlling as you wished for @Meza994I don’t use TC so it doesn’t cause issue for me. But for those it does. I’ve driven pretty much every racing game since pole position. And when they started adding in game TC. No TC has ever acted this bad. Yes I expect it to break traction with extreme inputs but as with TC IRL you should still be able to catch it as I have extreme amounts of experience with. But you can’t the front wheels stick and car just rotates round.
But not going to argue the point with you as your always right 🙄
- @ScarDuck14 Lol what? Ok sure😂
@mariohomoh found this; https://youtu.be/N4kcLyYhThE
@Monzstar83 yep, love this video! It's not new but I often mention it (not here, naturally) when talking about maintenance throttle and using the gas to keep the car on the limit in tin tops. I'm not sure what connection you're seeing here to the discussion?
I mean, there are definitely some, but I could see people trying to argue both ways here.
Senna's iconic blips, as I believe going from memory that Mansell also noted:
- Helped on those old turbos to keep the turbo spooling and have immediate power on exit instead of having to wait for the turbo to wind up as the engine revved from a lower range
- Helped keeping the car on the limit by redistributing the load quickly and keeping any wheel from locking up
- Would hardly work on today's heavy cars as it's all about platform control and humongous downforce,and the blips are detrimental to that - still valid and useful for GT or low downforce cars though, as I said. Driving the likes of the FF1600 and with no time you'll find yourself instinctively doing that to keep the car balanced throughout all phases of the corner
In a way, Senna used the throttle much like Schumacher and Alonso (on his earlier run) used his steering: extracting extra performance from the car either by keeping it balanced or to exploit those instants of traction loss to get extra rotation out of it.
Much like ScarDuck said, even with TC on real cars you can feel the car losing it and correct it. Those with an extra sense for it can use that to their advantage, or fine tune their butts to know precisely when to let it go (or to blip it) to keep the tyres hard at the work you intend them to do.
OP's inputs in those videos unfortunately don't fall on that bucket and aren't going to work on a 2023 car, or on F1 23 game.
This discussion sidetracked to the throttle application, but the braking should not be understated. With that "boxed" braking (0-100-100-100-0 with no in-between and no gradual release on corner entry) it just aggravates the slides as the car is unbalanced, struggling to go through the mid corner, and not properly loaded to take on that similarly abrupt throttle stomp.
@mariohomoh regarding the throttle, I thought it backs up what your saying, in that the repeated stabbing causes lots of understeer/oversteer combing with turning the wheel past the point of traction
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