EA SPORTS FC™ Team@Meza994How high up in the chain does someone need to be to express a simple apology? I could've tagged every EA and CM username on this forum, and my point would remain valid. Raphii happens to be here the most, so I tagged them.
What exactly is preventing anyone from EA saying as much?
Pride? Arrogance?
By all means, continue to make excuses for their behavior. They clearly need more.
When you were told as a child that you should apologize for something, did you tell the adult in question that their criticism wasn't "constructive?" I was raised to apologize when appropriate. Shame on me for expecting the same basic human behavior from the companies I do business with.
@TrekariYou are just raging at community managers from the publisher.. If you dont see why they are not to blame for the problems of the game then its up to you..
Those who are to blame for a problem should apologize, what you are doing here is the same as going to a grocery store and screaming at the cashier because of higher prices..
Realistically I think apologies for game performance not matching people's expectations generally doesn't happen (have you ever seen one?) for two reasons:
As far as I'm concerned nobody should expect one and it wouldn't make any difference if it happened anyway. Also, do you think anyone working on the game is happy that there are significant ongoing issues? Of course they aren't.
This thread really isn't the right place to be discussing this though, as it's detracting from people trying to highlight new issues following the latest update.
@Meza994Where have I suggested that Raphii is responsible for the coding of this game?
They are a "Community Manager" right? Seems to me like that job would at least be one of the people who could actually communicate some kind of remorse for the outcome of the game.
As I said in my other post you took exception to: ANYONE at EA could come here and offer a simple apology. NONE of them have done so.
Not Raphii. Not any other EA-branded name here. Nobody.
Edit: @Ultrasonic_77 Multiple companies within the past handful of years have released huge public statements about their failure to deliver a quality product. Cyberpunk 2077 and LotR: Gollum come to mind immediately. That's certainly one extreme of the spectrum in issuing an apology, but we don't even get the complete opposite end of just a simple "We know we've let you down and we'll do better."
It doesn't have to be on twitter. It doesn't have to be a press conference. Failing to express the sentiment at all? Not ok.
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77They apologised for Gollum and cyber punk.
Agree with everything else you said
I don't know about Gollum, but the Cyber Punk case was also associated with mass refunds and removal from sale. F1 23 is also not anywhere close to as broken as Cyber Punk was.
@Trekari Still the same, screaming at the cashier for a product thats gotten more expensive.. Scream at Codemasters for doing it bad, EA is a mere publisher
But in the end @Ultrasonic_77 is right with what he says but do as you feel is right
@Ultrasonic_77If you don't know about Gollum, I suggest staying blissfully ignorant of it at all costs. :D
It was awful. Bad enough that Daedalic Entertainment closed their development studio entirely. Metacritic score of 39/100 for PC. Likely headed to a 'Worst Game of the Year" award, although Redfall is making a strong argument for itself too.
@Meza994 You should try reading my comments and then responding. I don't know how many times I have to express you why I tagged Raphii. (Who again is a CM - not a 'cashier.') You also need to work on your analogies.
Where is the "Codemaster" place I'm supposed to direct my comments to? Last I checked, this was the F1 23 forum.
In an unrelated remark:
Has anyone found that "Pit Release Assist" gives back control of the car too late to be making Turn 1 without locking tyres up (for example, in Bahrain)? Happened with both Hard and Medium tyres.
@Trekari I read yours right, i just dont see his blame in anything, CM in this case is not anything close to the he should have to get all the blame by angry players not getting what they want.. And i dont care if you dont understand my analogies
You could have just written it to an actual Codemasters employee but again do as you see fit, if you feel like this will change things do it..
@DinaatioSure i can understand people being annoyed but just raging senselessly is not gonna fix things, but thats just my view 🙂
@ScarDuck14Ok...I might have a quick puff on something too, if we're being transparent with each other lol.
Though VR goggles have put a kibosh on that. ☹️
@TrekariWhen I used to smoke I’d light up have a few puffs then the rest would burn out in the ashtray. 🙄.
Vaping is more convenient and a whole lot cheaper
@Trekari
I also use Pit Release assist as I am not bothered. And I also have to be on brake even before control is returned. But there few tracks when you don't need to care, e.g. Brazil or Zandvoort.
I guess it would much more fun to get control back before end of white line, otherwise engineer's comment about being careful when exiting pit lane is quite useless 😉
